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Stirlingsays 14 Jul 17 12.16pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 If you believe that 2+2=5 and it is the truth that 2+2=4 then for you it is still the truth that 2+2=5. In your mind when you become more in debt every day you are still actually re-paying it regardless of how much it is actually increasing. Another remoaner back to show us his impressive maths skills. The day this joker represents a 'truth' old Jezza will also win Mr Universe. I was embarrassed for you to see how little you knew about the EU's debt situation. A situation where they aren't paying down the deficit but increasing it....Whereas the UK...which is obviously in far less debt is paying it down. Yet you want to talk about the UK.....A country you do down yet no doubt benefit from. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jul 17 12.16pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

If you believe that 2+2=5 and it is the truth that 2+2=4 then for you it is still the truth that 2+2=5.

In your mind when you become more in debt every day you are still actually re-paying it regardless of how much it is actually increasing.

Another remoaner back to show us his impressive maths skills. The day this joker represents a 'truth' old Jezza will also win Mr Universe.

I was embarrassed for you to see how little you knew about the EU's debt situation. A situation where they aren't paying down the deficit but increasing it....Whereas the UK...which is obviously in far less debt is paying it down.

Yet you want to talk about the UK.....A country you do down yet no doubt benefit from.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 14 Jul 17 12.22pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The UK has conceded for the first time that it will continue its commitment to any financial obligations to the European Union after it leaves the single market. In a written statement by Brexit secretary David Davis, said the government ‘recognised’ its obligations to the single market “that will survive the UK’s withdrawal”. Only a day after 'whistle for it'. It's like an endless well of stupidity. It has always been said that we would continue with our legal obligations. Where has Davis said otherwise? Also institutions that the UK believes in we will seek to continue in and hence contribute to.....There are plenty of mutual benefit areas. Johnson and the back bencher were quite rightly referring the silly 80-100 billion joke positions given to the media by your oh so precious EU negotiators. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2017 12.23pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jul 17 12.22pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The UK has conceded for the first time that it will continue its commitment to any financial obligations to the European Union after it leaves the single market.

In a written statement by Brexit secretary David Davis, said the government ‘recognised’ its obligations to the single market “that will survive the UK’s withdrawal”.

Only a day after 'whistle for it'.

It's like an endless well of stupidity.

It has always been said that we would continue with our legal obligations. Where has Davis said otherwise? Also institutions that the UK believes in we will seek to continue in and hence contribute to.....There are plenty of mutual benefit areas.

Johnson and the back bencher were quite rightly referring the silly 80-100 billion joke positions given to the media by your oh so precious EU negotiators.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jul 2017 12.23pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jul 17 12.53pm
The UK has conceded for the first time that it will continue its commitment to any financial obligations to the European Union after it leaves the single market. 'Financial obligations'? After you leave the single market you still pay in to it? Bonkers brexiteers.
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Croydon 14 Jul 17 12.53pm

The UK has conceded for the first time that it will continue its commitment to any financial obligations to the European Union after it leaves the single market.

'Financial obligations'?

After you leave the single market you still pay in to it?

Bonkers brexiteers.

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europalace Europe 14 Jul 17 1.06pm
"EasyJet picks Austrian base for post-Brexit plan" [Link]
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hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jul 17 2.22pm
Originally posted by nickgusset You really believe we would end up with state supermarkets. In other news the ft put a positive spin on national humiliation. [Link] Lets get back to the original point I was addressing; that is your fellow traveller on here moaning about a bit of free market competition among supermarkets. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 14 Jul 17 2.22pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

You really believe we would end up with state supermarkets.

In other news the ft put a positive spin on national humiliation. [Link]

Lets get back to the original point I was addressing; that is your fellow traveller on here moaning about a bit of free market competition among supermarkets.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 14 Jul 17 2.31pm
Originally posted by Hansy But Labour recently voted against their own policy of staying in the single market. How do you explain that? You say the Tories are confused on how to appease both wings, that's because they are the ones actually negotiating it. Labour aren't negotiating it but are still split. Every party won't vote against it. If that is the case, we will have seen more people in favour of Chucka's proposal. Chucka split the party, Corbyn sacked some front benchers too, this will be dire for Labour if they do come in to power. It may force May out if what you say actually happens. But then the Tories will have a much stronger candidate and Labour will be stuck with Corbyn who with an excellent campaign couldn't beat a absolutely terrible campaign ran by May. I say stuck because half Labour MPs don't agree with him. You must have misread (or not read) their manifesto. Name me a single MP other than Tories/DUP who will back the government on their Breixt bills if they don't make the concessions Kier Starmer is demanding for Labour's support. Dominic Grieve/Anna Soubry/Nicky Morgan will lead the Tory revolt and vote against the government and bring May down.
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Originally posted by Hansy

But Labour recently voted against their own policy of staying in the single market. How do you explain that? You say the Tories are confused on how to appease both wings, that's because they are the ones actually negotiating it. Labour aren't negotiating it but are still split.

Every party won't vote against it. If that is the case, we will have seen more people in favour of Chucka's proposal. Chucka split the party, Corbyn sacked some front benchers too, this will be dire for Labour if they do come in to power.

It may force May out if what you say actually happens. But then the Tories will have a much stronger candidate and Labour will be stuck with Corbyn who with an excellent campaign couldn't beat a absolutely terrible campaign ran by May. I say stuck because half Labour MPs don't agree with him.

You must have misread (or not read) their manifesto.

Name me a single MP other than Tories/DUP who will back the government on their Breixt bills if they don't make the concessions Kier Starmer is demanding for Labour's support.

Dominic Grieve/Anna Soubry/Nicky Morgan will lead the Tory revolt and vote against the government and bring May down.

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jul 17 5.54pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle You must have misread (or not read) their manifesto. Name me a single MP other than Tories/DUP who will back the government on their Breixt bills if they don't make the concessions Kier Starmer is demanding for Labour's support. Dominic Grieve/Anna Soubry/Nicky Morgan will lead the Tory revolt and vote against the government and bring May down. The PM and opposition leader are pro-brexit so I don't see where you are coming from, as for Keith Starmer just ignore his demands who needs his support, Mrs May must have made this calculation and ignored her drop in support at the recent election. Any number of things can scupper brexit but from world events, in Europe itself, a financial crash but not in the UK parliament IMO. Power over brexit is elsewhere now not that our parliament was any use at all, the entire house was unable to make one solitary amendment to the whole thing.
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Croydon 14 Jul 17 5.54pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You must have misread (or not read) their manifesto.

Name me a single MP other than Tories/DUP who will back the government on their Breixt bills if they don't make the concessions Kier Starmer is demanding for Labour's support.

Dominic Grieve/Anna Soubry/Nicky Morgan will lead the Tory revolt and vote against the government and bring May down.

The PM and opposition leader are pro-brexit so I don't see where you are coming from, as for Keith Starmer just ignore his demands who needs his support, Mrs May must have made this calculation and ignored her drop in support at the recent election.

Any number of things can scupper brexit but from world events, in Europe itself, a financial crash but not in the UK parliament IMO.

Power over brexit is elsewhere now not that our parliament was any use at all, the entire house was unable to make one solitary amendment to the whole thing.

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europalace Europe 14 Jul 17 8.24pm
"Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit" [Link]
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"Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit"

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Stirlingsays 14 Jul 17 8.27pm
Originally posted by europalace "Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit" [Link] Yep, probably a sensible straddling of the horse. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jul 17 8.27pm

Originally posted by europalace

"Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit"

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Yep, probably a sensible straddling of the horse.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jul 17 8.34pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Lets get back to the original point I was addressing; that is your fellow traveller on here moaning about a bit of free market competition among supermarkets. One man's free market is another's cartel.
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Shizzlehurst 14 Jul 17 8.34pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Lets get back to the original point I was addressing; that is your fellow traveller on here moaning about a bit of free market competition among supermarkets.

One man's free market is another's cartel.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jul 17 8.36pm
Originally posted by europalace "Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit" [Link] Oh no, we're all doomed! How could we think we could cope on our own. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 14 Jul 17 8.36pm

Originally posted by europalace

"Barclays in talks to expand Dublin office post-Brexit"

[Link]

Oh no, we're all doomed! How could we think we could cope on our own.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jul 17 9.15pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Oh no, we're all doomed! How could we think we could cope on our own. So there is something good about brexit after all. Do the Irish know it is the fine-paying department they are getting????
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Croydon 14 Jul 17 9.15pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Oh no, we're all doomed! How could we think we could cope on our own.

So there is something good about brexit after all.

Do the Irish know it is the fine-paying department they are getting????

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