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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 9.50am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I said this was the plan all along. It was obvious that Biden should never have sought a second term but by allowing him to do so the Democrats kept their options open.

Harris was hopeless when she went for the nomination and was the first to drop out. By coming late to the party she had avoided much of the media scrutiny that candidates normally have to suffer.

American politics is brutal but so far she has had an easy ride, it remains to be seen if this will be allowed to continue.

There is a huge difference in campaigning for nomination in 2020 and being the candidate in 2024. In 2020 she was virtually unknown and doing it almost alone and on a shoestring. Now she has the full weight of the DNC behind her and a huge supporting budget.

Even back in 2020 she was, for me, the best candidate and I said so back then. If the priority was to beat Trump then optics matter. I also predicted Biden would not be the candidate in 2024, despite his nomination. Perhaps the Democrats have been playing a very clever game all along, which Biden has been part of? I personally don’t think that’s true, but it could be.

Ensuring that Trump gets beaten is the understandable objective of many of those genuinely concerned about the future direction of the USA. Which will include media owners alongside many millions of ordinary voters now breathing heavy sighs of relief that there is now a credible candidate who can do that.

So don’t be surprised if she is given an easy ride. If the objective is within grasp you don’t risk upsetting the apple cart.

The tide has turned and the flood has started to flow. With luck it will now become unstoppable.

 


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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 10 Aug 24 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

This election will be decided by -100k people if it was Kamala or Coco the clown at head of the ticket!

Democrats idea of what the US should look like is plain madness but Trump needs to address abortion regulations and be supportive in his references on global warming and foreign policy!

Will be fascinating and so glad the Olympics have been on to take away the pain of wall to wall media BS.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 24 1.51pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Houston Eagle

This election will be decided by -100k people if it was Kamala or Coco the clown at head of the ticket!

Democrats idea of what the US should look like is plain madness but Trump needs to address abortion regulations and be supportive in his references on global warming and foreign policy!

Will be fascinating and so glad the Olympics have been on to take away the pain of wall to wall media BS.

Coco the Clown is clearly the intellectual candidate.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Aug 24 11.37pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Coco the Clown is clearly the intellectual candidate.

I have long argued that Mickey Mouse would be safer in the WH than Trump, because he would need to take advice. Not believe he is the best brain ever and that whatever he says must be right.

Coco the Clown would.be OK too.

Harris will be a safe pair of hands. She will listen and not be irrational or impulsive.

The priority is avoiding Trump.

 


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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 11 Aug 24 12.22am Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have long argued that Mickey Mouse would be safer in the WH than Trump, because he would need to take advice. Not believe he is the best brain ever and that whatever he says must be right.

Coco the Clown would.be OK too.

Harris will be a safe pair of hands. She will listen and not be irrational or impulsive.

The priority is avoiding Trump.


And the other 50% of America has a priority of avoiding a repeat of the previous 4 years EVEN if that means Trump!!!

Biden and Harris must have been awful if it has come to this!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Aug 24 3.17am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Coco the Clown is someone who thinks Trump is less safe than the Democrats who took over from him.

You only have to look at what's transpired under them.....100 billion of military equipment left in Afghanistan....it's actually made that country a military hub and given untold military information to America's enemies.

Trump's presidency had no new wars (despite the left in 2015 screaming that he'll take us to WW3) Compare that to a Democratic presidency that has left us closer to actual WW3 than anytime since the sixties. A presidency that has only escalated and failed to succeed in any of it....just spent untold amounts of money and ruined very very important diplomatic relationships.

A Democrat party that has strengthened BRICs pushing China and Russia into an indirect but very real alliance (that's an untold disaster that the media deliberately keep quiet about) Democrats who have undone all the positive work Trump had with the Saudis.....and the Saudis I might add are very important in the middle east.

It's pure wanton dishonesty and wanton blindness to claim that Trump is less safe than the Democrats.

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Aug 24 7.35am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

A Trump win will give us four years of the TDS brigade driving themselves nuts which is something to look forward to.

No one knows what will happen in the future apart from that group.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 11 Aug 24 7.59am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

A good rule of thumb, is that if you have any doubts over an issue, see what Wisbelch is saying about it and take the opposite view - you won't go far wrong.

 

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YT Flag Oxford 11 Aug 24 8.00am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

A good rule of thumb, is that if you have any doubts over an issue, see what Wisbelch is saying about it and take the opposite view - you won't go far wrong.

Do what he does all the time then!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Aug 24 10.23am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Houston Eagle


And the other 50% of America has a priority of avoiding a repeat of the previous 4 years EVEN if that means Trump!!!

Biden and Harris must have been awful if it has come to this!

Looking at it from here it seems that the idea it has been awful is much more perception than reality. Recovering from a pandemic that was badly handled by the previous administration, having to handle the world wide impact of that of supply chain problems and inflation and then being hit by the war in Ukraine, it’s demands and impacts were all challenging.

Every western country faced these problems but the US has managed them better and its economy is performing well in spite of them.

The problem is the insular nature of many there. They don’t recognise the comparisons or think problems should impact them. They just think those problems must be the fault of the President. So it’s perception not reality.

Whether Harris can communicate that effectively enough to swing sufficient numbers her way is yet to be determined. Again from here she looks like the fresh new face that will appeal to those who respond to the oldest political message. That anything is better than what we have had before. Optics matter too.

She seems to be on a strong upwards trajectory with Trump now looking like the tired old man, out of anything but the same old rhetoric and insult. He is the one with the heavy baggage of convictions, accusations, obvious character flaws and age.

Too early to call but if I were a betting man I know where my money would go. Which is also in Harris’s favour. People like to be associated with winners.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Aug 24 12.56pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Looking at it from here it seems that the idea it has been awful is much more perception than reality. Recovering from a pandemic that was badly handled by the previous administration, having to handle the world wide impact of that of supply chain problems and inflation and then being hit by the war in Ukraine, it’s demands and impacts were all challenging.

Every western country faced these problems but the US has managed them better and its economy is performing well in spite of them.

The problem is the insular nature of many there. They don’t recognise the comparisons or think problems should impact them. They just think those problems must be the fault of the President. So it’s perception not reality.

Whether Harris can communicate that effectively enough to swing sufficient numbers her way is yet to be determined. Again from here she looks like the fresh new face that will appeal to those who respond to the oldest political message. That anything is better than what we have had before. Optics matter too.

She seems to be on a strong upwards trajectory with Trump now looking like the tired old man, out of anything but the same old rhetoric and insult. He is the one with the heavy baggage of convictions, accusations, obvious character flaws and age.

Too early to call but if I were a betting man I know where my money would go. Which is also in Harris’s favour. People like to be associated with winners.

Harris will likely be very quiet except a few scripted sound bites and slogans. That will keep the general public from seeing just how unburdened with intelligence that she is. She's going to have to very carefully managed by her handlers. That doesn't bode well for the Democrats as they demonstrated zero ability to handle Biden's clear cognitive deficiencies. They'll have to up their game. Not sure they can get away with the postal votes this time either - I think largely ID is required but haven't looked into it. I may be wrong.
Expect to see Harris with the Obama's in the background in every photo the whole time. Frankly, they would have her on a tight leash but it isn't that necessary as she's not much of a threat to them. She lacks the guile and intelligence to be a real rival political threat.

 


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Houston Eagle Flag Houston 11 Aug 24 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Houston Eagle Add Houston Eagle as a friend

Still only 34 of the states require photo ID when voting. Each state sets its requirements hence the variation during elections!

Same with other controversial subjects such as abortion rights etc. Whilst I find that strange the picture of 5 UK’s fit inside Texas puts it into perspective l.

 

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