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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Mar 21 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no idea about this lady but anyone wishing to migrate to the UK now, and for quite a while, has to sit the IELTS exam to prove they have a basic English competency before a visa is granted. Once here and wishing to extend their visa during the usual 5 year probation period the level of competency demanded increases. Settlement at 5 years means they have to pass the "Life in the UK test" which demands they know a whole raft of things about British culture and history. Some of which would challenge many who have lived here since birth. There are practice tests online. Try a few if you don't believe me. On top of that at every stage questions are asked about whether the applicant has ever been a member of, supports or sympathises with a terrorist organisation. I doubt anyone has ever answered "yes" but the point is that should they subsequently have been found to have lied then they would have breached their visa conditions and be subject to immediate removal. Then there's the cost. It's very expensive. Every stage demands fees, the basic processing plus extras for the exams, interviews etc. The fee for a settlement, indefinite leave to remain visa is around £2,500 plus, plus, plus. If an agent is used to wade through the bureaucracy then you can double that. If anyone spends less than £10,000 they have done well. Of course, none of this applies to illegals and that's where the real problems exist. Really? I was volunteering at a surgery last week and we had plenty who could not speak or understand English, not saying they are bad people and glad to see them getting the jab but English was not their thing.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Mar 21 10.53am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Really? I was volunteering at a surgery last week and we had plenty who could not speak or understand English, not saying they are bad people and glad to see them getting the jab but English was not their thing. I guess it will depend on when they arrived. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years. My first experience with the system was in 2002 and it was then a very simple thing, handled directly by the Embassy involved. Fill in a form, attend an interview, get a visa. Then a lot got shifted to Lunar House in Croydon which was a nightmare to deal with. Nowadays it's all handled by commercial businesses on behalf of UKVI who make the final decisions but at arm's length so there is no opportunity for any kind of personal assessment.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Mar 21 10.54am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Really? I was volunteering at a surgery last week and we had plenty who could not speak or understand English, not saying they are bad people and glad to see them getting the jab but English was not their thing. Many of the Asian countries such as India/pakistan/Bangladesh would have come on family visas and then applied through family. They would not have to follow these procedures.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Mar 21 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Many of the Asian countries such as India/pakistan/Bangladesh would have come on family visas and then applied through family. They would not have to follow these procedures. It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees. No-one other than illegals escapes this.
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 01 Mar 21 4.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees. No-one other than illegals escapes this. so what do they do that allows them to stay.......one today, about to be deported, suddenly 'remembered' that he is bisexual and therefore immune to deportation.....
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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Mar 21 4.56pm | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
so what do they do that allows them to stay.......one today, about to be deported, suddenly 'remembered' that he is bisexual and therefore immune to deportation..... Shouldn't he be made to prove it "We're just going to lock you in a cell with Bubba who will take real good care of you"
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 01 Mar 21 7.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Shouldn't he be made to prove it "We're just going to lock you in a cell with Bubba who will take real good care of you" excellent idea!!
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 01 Mar 21 7.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees. No-one other than illegals escapes this. Is there a life in cornwall test? Asking because my mother is moving from Kent (hotbed of covid) to Cornwall next month
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Spiderman Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no idea about this lady but anyone wishing to migrate to the UK now, and for quite a while, has to sit the IELTS exam to prove they have a basic English competency before a visa is granted. Once here and wishing to extend their visa during the usual 5 year probation period the level of competency demanded increases. Settlement at 5 years means they have to pass the "Life in the UK test" which demands they know a whole raft of things about British culture and history. Some of which would challenge many who have lived here since birth. There are practice tests online. Try a few if you don't believe me. On top of that at every stage questions are asked about whether the applicant has ever been a member of, supports or sympathises with a terrorist organisation. I doubt anyone has ever answered "yes" but the point is that should they subsequently have been found to have lied then they would have breached their visa conditions and be subject to immediate removal. Then there's the cost. It's very expensive. Every stage demands fees, the basic processing plus extras for the exams, interviews etc. The fee for a settlement, indefinite leave to remain visa is around £2,500 plus, plus, plus. If an agent is used to wade through the bureaucracy then you can double that. If anyone spends less than £10,000 they have done well. Of course, none of this applies to illegals and that's where the real problems exist. You forgot to mention that family members of EU nationals did not have to pay a fee or comply with virtually none of the conditions your wife would have had to... fact. At least we have been able to ditch this prejudice against our own nationals Edited by Spiderman (01 Mar 2021 7.24pm)
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Spiderman Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I guess it will depend on when they arrived. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years. My first experience with the system was in 2002 and it was then a very simple thing, handled directly by the Embassy involved. Fill in a form, attend an interview, get a visa. Then a lot got shifted to Lunar House in Croydon which was a nightmare to deal with. Nowadays it's all handled by commercial businesses on behalf of UKVI who make the final decisions but at arm's length so there is no opportunity for any kind of personal assessment. Very true and by removing the visa issuing away from
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Spiderman Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.21pm | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
so what do they do that allows them to stay.......one today, about to be deported, suddenly 'remembered' that he is bisexual and therefore immune to deportation..... That’s the Human Rights Act for you
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Spiderman Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees. No-one other than illegals escapes this. Of course visitors don’t have to pass this test, and believe it or not some never leave after the visit
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