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.TUX.  08 Dec 17 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by wordup
Yes, I think he'll win. The moral compass has well and truly gone out of the window. He'll be a liability to his party if he wins, so it balances out in a funny kind of way. Obama, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, averaged one rocket launch for every 30mins of his presidency.
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| wordup 08 Dec 17 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Obama, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, averaged one rocket launch for every 30mins of his presidency. I see what you're saying, and I agree that structures are in place that essentially redistribute wealth to the rich, for instance, whoever is in power. That said, the presidency previous to Obama did that on an unthinkably huge scale and waved bye bye to several trillion that could've been used to improve the lives of Americans, instead of achieve the opposite abroad. And yes, giving Obama the Nobel Peace prize was ridiculous. Edited by wordup (08 Dec 2017 9.59pm)
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| .TUX. 08 Dec 17 10.18pm |
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Originally posted by wordup
I see what you're saying, and I agree that structures are in place that essentially redistribute wealth to the rich, for instance, whoever is in power. That said, the presidency previous to Obama did that on an unthinkably huge scale and waved bye bye to several trillion that could've been used to improve the lives of Americans, instead of achieve the opposite abroad. Obama spent far more enriching the already wealthy than ANY administration before him (he as good as 'spent/borrowed' more than EVERY single President before him, doubling the National Debt!), very little of which went to those at the bottom. Scrapping the privately owned Federal Reserve would be a start (and hopefully we'd follow with the BoE).
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| wordup 08 Dec 17 11.05pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Obama spent far more enriching the already wealthy than ANY administration before him (he as good as 'spent/borrowed' more than EVERY single President before him, doubling the National Debt!), very little of which went to those at the bottom. Scrapping the privately owned Federal Reserve would be a start (and hopefully we'd follow with the BoE).
Trillions shifted hands during the Iraq years and not in the direction of anyone in need. Then again, if I'm wrong and wrong. The wealth gap in greater than ever so certainly no-one has been or is looking out for 'the little guy'. The passing of this latest tax bill is proof of that too. Though it's of course clouded by throwing an emotionally comforting bone via trumps twitter account to those who can be kept onside and disadvantaged at the same time. But the latest approval polls tell us all we need to know. Since you seem to have an out of the box view of things or are not easily swayed by 'teams', what steps do you think need to be taken to everyone the lot of the average person?
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 DanH SW2 13 Dec 17 8.23am |
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Looks like those pesky voters in Alabama are biased against Trump too
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jeeagles  13 Dec 17 8.40am |
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The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump. Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about:
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 13 Dec 17 9.58am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump. Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about: The Democrats need to sort themselves out and realise that jobs are more important to people than anything else. Isn't it possible to care about more than one thing at a time? Is it not possible to want unemployment levels to fall AND have politicians who don't act inappropriately towards women?
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| DanH SW2 13 Dec 17 10.08am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump. Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about:
Mate, the Republicans have literally just lost an election in one of the most Republican states in the US.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Dec 17 11.08am |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Obama spent far more enriching the already wealthy than ANY administration before him (he as good as 'spent/borrowed' more than EVERY single President before him, doubling the National Debt!), very little of which went to those at the bottom. Scrapping the privately owned Federal Reserve would be a start (and hopefully we'd follow with the BoE).
The data doesn't really back you up on Obama's tax and spending.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 13 Dec 17 11.10am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The USA unemployment rate is at is lowest level since the year 2000. The fall in unemployment may have started under previous administration but it's continued to fall under Trump. Now ask yourself, if you had a family to feed and where on the breadline, what would you care more about:
Have you seen Trump's tax legislation? It's a disgrace. As is his healthcare plan. The man is the biggest plutocrat in populist clothing since Nero. I feel sorry for the US middle and working classes.
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| Stirlingsays 13 Dec 17 11.27am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Have you seen Trump's tax legislation? It's a disgrace. As is his healthcare plan. The man is the biggest plutocrat in populist clothing since Nero. I feel sorry for the US middle and working classes. You are just apart of the hyperbolic reaction against him. The only policy that Trump has come up with that I agree with is his immigration attempts.....opposed at every turn of course. That and it's obvious to see the positive affect that Trump has had on business confidence. However the most notable aspect about Trump is seeing in just how much hatred he stirs within those I hardly ever agree with. Yours and others inability to be objective over Trump marks you out as just as bad as the Republican tea party was. Just like they were with Obama, seemingly with every comment it's comparing Trump with the worse things they can think of.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Dec 17 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by wordup
Yes, I think he'll win. The moral compass has well and truly gone out of the window. He'll be a liability to his party if he wins, so it balances out in a funny kind of way. But down he goes.
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