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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 17 9.03am | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
As you love the EU so much – and its ever so great transparency – I thought you'd be able to find it online better than me! PS Do you disagree with anything on fisheries from that UKIP page? Edited by Penge Eagle (24 Apr 2017 8.36am) I do as the are a bit late for the party and everyone has gone home. Voting in favour to ban discards has already happened and implemented [Link] My god - the EU has reformed parts of itself.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
As you love the EU so much – and its ever so great transparency – I thought you'd be able to find it online better than me! PS Do you disagree with anything on fisheries from that UKIP page? Edited by Penge Eagle (24 Apr 2017 8.36am) It doesn't mention anything about sustainability of fishing stocks, nor does it mention that something like over 90% of UK fishing is carried out by just 3 companies that don't give trawlers a great deal. [Link] fact check on stocks and allowances.
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 Apr 17 9.56am | |
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Originally posted by becky
Building 200,000 new homes a year, half to be paid for by the private sector and the other half to be Council homes funded by the council borrowing against assets which would mean huge rises in council taxes to pay the interest on all these loans to build the houses, which in turn would impact hardest on those on fixed incomes......... Council borrowing has soared in recent years. Councils have access to very cheap borrowing from central government (Public Works Loan Board), a policy brought in by the Tories in 2010 and extended last year. In order to reduce funding gaps councils have been borrowing and buying income producing assets such as commercial properties. With borrowing costs at record lows many councils have been borrowing. One recent example is Spelthorne Borough Council which purchased BP's campus in Surrey for £300m. Councils are being forced to supplement their own budgets by making financial investments using tax payers' money, which comes with a risk premium. They also don't tend to have in house expertise so rely on agents etc. and have been guilty of perhaps overpaying for some assets recently. This policy is in existence already due to cuts in funding and a lack of desire to increase council taxes. Surrey council were recently about to hold a referendum on increasing rates but were given a bung by the government to avoid the embarrassment.
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 Apr 17 10.03am | |
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Originally posted by susmik
Yes but we WILL carry on without them and make our own deals and destiny which is better than being ruled by all those idiots threatening to give us a hard time because we voted to leave their hated club! You say this with what authority? I have no idea if we'll be able to do any decent trade deals. I hope so, but it's very uncertain. Also I tend to think a market of 500m people would hold more sway than one a tenth of the size. But then what do I know!
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Council borrowing has soared in recent years. Councils have access to very cheap borrowing from central government (Public Works Loan Board), a policy brought in by the Tories in 2010 and extended last year. In order to reduce funding gaps councils have been borrowing and buying income producing assets such as commercial properties. With borrowing costs at record lows many councils have been borrowing. One recent example is Spelthorne Borough Council which purchased BP's campus in Surrey for £300m. Councils are being forced to supplement their own budgets by making financial investments using tax payers' money, which comes with a risk premium. They also don't tend to have in house expertise so rely on agents etc. and have been guilty of perhaps overpaying for some assets recently. This policy is in existence already due to cuts in funding and a lack of desire to increase council taxes. Surrey council were recently about to hold a referendum on increasing rates but were given a bung by the government to avoid the embarrassment. Bromley council bought a hotel on the Isle of White with taxpayer money.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 24 Apr 17 4.55pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
You say this with what authority? I have no idea if we'll be able to do any decent trade deals. I hope so, but it's very uncertain. Also I tend to think a market of 500m people would hold more sway than one a tenth of the size. But then what do I know! Trade deals are now being discussed all over the world without the hated EU making all the rules. The market you mention of 500m people will still trade with us even though as I said the idiots running the EU have said they will give us a very hard brexit. I suggest you look at the wider picture and see just how tied we are within the Union. Pretty soon other countries will follow us and want to leave mark my words. We will get a deal that is good for us and good for them also.
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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 17 5.05pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
Trade deals are now being discussed all over the world without the hated EU making all the rules. The market you mention of 500m people will still trade with us even though as I said the idiots running the EU have said they will give us a very hard brexit. I suggest you look at the wider picture and see just how tied we are within the Union. Pretty soon other countries will follow us and want to leave mark my words. We will get a deal that is good for us and good for them also. Or...it would have been in the UK's best interests to stay in if Brexit becomes a total mess with no real afterthought. If you trust the shower of sh1te in Parliament then I admire your optimism.
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davenotamonkey 24 Apr 17 8.02pm | |
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Labour storming ahead in the polls for Wales. [Tweet Link]
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Apr 17 10.28pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Like continuing to claim expenses whilst not being there. Or not turning up for important voted, fishing rights being one for instance, which is strange because he kept going on about it. The Kinnocks have been doing this for years!!
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 Apr 17 10.36pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
Trade deals are now being discussed all over the world without the hated EU making all the rules. The market you mention of 500m people will still trade with us even though as I said the idiots running the EU have said they will give us a very hard brexit. I suggest you look at the wider picture and see just how tied we are within the Union. Pretty soon other countries will follow us and want to leave mark my words. We will get a deal that is good for us and good for them also. So on no authority. Just conjecture. I hope we sign lots of good deals but there is no evidence of any at all yet. We shall see. Would you rather do a trade deal with the whole of South America or Peru alone? And which one would you give more favourable terms to to get a deal done?
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davenotamonkey 25 Apr 17 12.51am | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
So on no authority. Just conjecture. I hope we sign lots of good deals but there is no evidence of any at all yet. We shall see. Would you rather do a trade deal with the whole of South America or Peru alone? And which one would you give more favourable terms to to get a deal done? Funny you should pick South America. Do you know the value of Chilean FTAs compared to the EU? I would prefer to do a deal with the constituent countries separately, because the Peruvian economy is completely different to the Brazilian, and a blanket one-size-fits-all deal would not adequately leverage the unique interfacing of two economies without excessive compromise to (for example) a pissy Argentina that's getting upset we won't make concessions on "Las Malvinas". Much better to have a deal that is tailored to the interests of the Peruvians without concessions to the Brazilians, along with a deal tailored to Brazil that does not have to make concessions to the Peruvians. Meanwhile, the plodding EU is still no closer to an Australian trade deal because of Italian tinned fcuking tomatoes. The EU-Canada deal was hamstrung because of Romania getting pissy about Canadian visas. Can you explain why there should be any "evidence" of UK trade deals when the EU forbids us making any? Have you noticed how they throw their toys out of the pram when it becomes apparent we are currently negotiating our own deals? Pathetic control freaks. They know we can do this, and we can thrive without them. You'll find plenty of news articles about the nations currently queuing up to sign trade deals with us when we're unshackled. I'd trust the Tories do it considerably more than the party now backed by a Communist Party of Britain that, for the first time in 97 years, will not be fielding candidates.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Apr 17 10.40am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Or...it would have been in the UK's best interests to stay in if Brexit becomes a total mess with no real afterthought. If you trust the shower of sh1te in Parliament then I admire your optimism. Surely it is better to have "The shower of s***" in government now than Corbyn lot in power. The polls have shown that people trust Theresa May more than our Corbyn and his shower. God help us if he ever did get in power. We would all be fecked then.
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