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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Aug 24 7.48am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
"Any guilty plea means the accused has accepted their guilt. What has motivated it remains unknown to everyone but Edwards and his legal representatives. Not to someone on a football forum!" Someone tell the pompous know-it-all that this is a nonsensical word salad. The motivation remains unknown..... not to someone on a football forum. If you believe a double negative has to be in a single sentence ,then the final sentence following " representatives " is pure nonsense. Whether or not Edwards shared his rationale for pleading guilty with his legal representatives is pure speculation yet put forward as a fact. Roll on the ignore button so such drivel is not read accidentally My post is described as a “word salad”, which seems to be the current favourite insult among those unable to comprehend truth in any circumstances they find distaceful, then this is served up. If this is a “word salad” it wilted overnight! It contains not one word on the issue and is just a tired bunch of insults. No one needs to either read my posts and have even less need to respond. Ignore buttons are not required. Just self discipline is. No one should read anything accidentally and certainly cannot reply by accident.
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YT Oxford 01 Aug 24 7.55am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
My post is described as a “word salad”, which seems to be the current favourite insult among those unable to comprehend truth in any circumstances they find distaceful, then this is served up. If this is a “word salad” it wilted overnight! It contains not one word on the issue and is just a tired bunch of insults. No one needs to either read my posts and have even less need to respond. Ignore buttons are not required. Just self discipline is. No one should read anything accidentally and certainly cannot reply by accident. Is that your best effort? Pathetic. Still no condemnation from you of the nonce Edwards. That says more than words possibly can.
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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Aug 24 8.29am | |
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Yet more allegations of inappropriate (as opposed to illegal) behaviour about Edwards. The BBC has a lot of explaining to do, my own bone of contention is that he should have been fired after the Sun story. His actions clearly damaged the BBC's reputation which is grounds for dismissal. Instead they allowed him to continue drawing his salary. As for the argument that the BBC had a duty of care and that he had not broken that law so could not be sacked, this is covered under reputational damage. What the BBC should have done is given Edwards or his legal team the opportunity to explain his actions. If he failed to engage with them or did not provide a satisfactory response you fire him and then face the next hurdle. Edwards would have been entitled to take the BBC to court but would he really want his behaviour gone over in forensic detail. And yes he might have won. In that case I suspect that public sympathy would be with the BBC and not Edwards. Instead they failed to act and now his criminal behaviour has caught up with him making the BBC's position even worse.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 01 Aug 24 8.39am | |
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Not only did Edwards continue to draw his salary, The BBC actually increased it by £40,000 Edited by Forest Hillbilly (01 Aug 2024 8.40am)
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Teddy Eagle 01 Aug 24 8.42am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yet more allegations of inappropriate (as opposed to illegal) behaviour about Edwards. The BBC has a lot of explaining to do, my own bone of contention is that he should have been fired after the Sun story. His actions clearly damaged the BBC's reputation which is grounds for dismissal. Instead they allowed him to continue drawing his salary. As for the argument that the BBC had a duty of care and that he had not broken that law so could not be sacked, this is covered under reputational damage. What the BBC should have done is given Edwards or his legal team the opportunity to explain his actions. If he failed to engage with them or did not provide a satisfactory response you fire him and then face the next hurdle. Edwards would have been entitled to take the BBC to court but would he really want his behaviour gone over in forensic detail. And yes he might have won. In that case I suspect that public sympathy would be with the BBC and not Edwards. Instead they failed to act and now his criminal behaviour has caught up with him making the BBC's position even worse.
The reputational damage to the BBC is only one factor but it seems significant after the "lessons learned" mantra following the other high profile cases.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Aug 24 8.47am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yet more allegations of inappropriate (as opposed to illegal) behaviour about Edwards. The BBC has a lot of explaining to do, my own bone of contention is that he should have been fired after the Sun story. His actions clearly damaged the BBC's reputation which is grounds for dismissal. Instead they allowed him to continue drawing his salary. As for the argument that the BBC had a duty of care and that he had not broken that law so could not be sacked, this is covered under reputational damage. What the BBC should have done is given Edwards or his legal team the opportunity to explain his actions. If he failed to engage with them or did not provide a satisfactory response you fire him and then face the next hurdle. Edwards would have been entitled to take the BBC to court but would he really want his behaviour gone over in forensic detail. And yes he might have won. In that case I suspect that public sympathy would be with the BBC and not Edwards. Instead they failed to act and now his criminal behaviour has caught up with him making the BBC's position even worse.
Well, let's hypothetically imagine that he 'liked' something on social media which could be subjectively interpreted as 'offensive' to the woke Nazi brigade. They may well have sacked him then. 'A suspected and almost certainly guilty nonce? Let's not jump to conclusions there and see how things pan out'. That's the world of today.
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Badger11 Beckenham 01 Aug 24 9.06am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Well, let's hypothetically imagine that he 'liked' something on social media which could be subjectively interpreted as 'offensive' to the woke Nazi brigade. They may well have sacked him then. 'A suspected and almost certainly guilty nonce? Let's not jump to conclusions there and see how things pan out'. That's the world of today. Agreed. Media companies are quick to sack people for inappropriate comments about race or gender. Sometimes the best course of action is to take a bullet. When I worked in the bank we sacked a guy who took us to court and won. It made the tabloids not because of the pay out (he got 20k) but because of his excuse which the tribunal believed. The tabloids and people I spoke to all said what a ridiculous decision so instead of the usual "evil bankers" story it was all about the Tribunal and the guy and his pathetic excuse. As I said above I would have sacked him after the Sun story and said sue us and be dammed. I'm pretty sure the public would have supported the BBC in that case. Instead the BBC have prevaricated and it's only made it worse.
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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Aug 24 12.37pm | |
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i see the young man who refused to co-operate with the police is now telling his version of the story to the tabloids. I would love to know if money has changed hands? Anyway according to this young man he was groomed by Edwards. From the BBC ""A few days later, the lawyer representing the young person disputed their mother's account of events, saying "the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish". In a letter to the BBC, the lawyer added "nothing inappropriate or unlawful" had taken place. But in his new interview on Saturday, the young man now describes Edwards as "an A-class manipulator".""
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
Is that your best effort? Pathetic. Still no condemnation from you of the nonce Edwards. That says more than words possibly can. I condemn all such activity. I see no reason to keep confirming it. All I have done is look at the BBC's response and tried to analyse it, whilst suggesting we need to allow the judge and whoever will advise him to do their jobs.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Aug 24 4.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
i see the young man who refused to co-operate with the police is now telling his version of the story to the tabloids. I would love to know if money has changed hands? Anyway according to this young man he was groomed by Edwards. From the BBC ""A few days later, the lawyer representing the young person disputed their mother's account of events, saying "the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish". In a letter to the BBC, the lawyer added "nothing inappropriate or unlawful" had taken place. But in his new interview on Saturday, the young man now describes Edwards as "an A-class manipulator"."" It does have the aroma of a payoff for a salubrious story! Only to be expected from the tabloids.
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Teddy Eagle 03 Aug 24 4.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
i see the young man who refused to co-operate with the police is now telling his version of the story to the tabloids. I would love to know if money has changed hands? Anyway according to this young man he was groomed by Edwards. From the BBC ""A few days later, the lawyer representing the young person disputed their mother's account of events, saying "the allegations reported in the Sun newspaper are rubbish". In a letter to the BBC, the lawyer added "nothing inappropriate or unlawful" had taken place. But in his new interview on Saturday, the young man now describes Edwards as "an A-class manipulator"."" Perhaps he meant after he'd received the pictures.
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YT Oxford 03 Aug 24 4.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I condemn all such activity. I see no reason to keep confirming it. All I have done is look at the BBC's response and tried to analyse it, whilst suggesting we need to allow the judge and whoever will advise him to do their jobs. "I condemn all such activity". So you won't specifically condemn the nonce Edwards then. Who is this "we" you love to refer to in your sermons? And what, oh guru, do "we" have to do to enable the judge and their advisers? Do "we" have to stop voicing opinions on a football forum, for example?
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