Social Liberalism is perhaps a more accurate description than 'neo'.

Essentially it is about more top-down centralised state intervention at almost every level of society by way of attempting to engineer it into what could be conceived of as a more 'progressive' environment.

So for example, the mass expansion of immigration since 1997 has been a very deliberate, and top down, UK government policy. Even when the Tories took over, it remained the same and whilst we have had Brexit since then (something that the majority of Tory MP's opposed by the way), it has made no difference.

Social Liberalism wants mass migration by way of pleasing its Corporate paymasters who want to keep wage costs down along with trying to weigh future electorates in its favour.

Championed by the Progressive Elements.

Social Liberalism IS the establishment position. And voting is not going to stop that. Somebody pulled me up earlier on my earlier stance that voting only serves a purpose until people realise how utterly futile is it.

And then Western Civilisation embarks on its final collapse. Suspect it will mirror that of Rome in that the West will fall to the barbarians, in the shape of an increasingly Islamic-dominated, political, legal and social landscape whilst the East becomes primarily a monocultural (and for that read White and Christian) collection of nations. The 3 Seas Project offers a reasonable summary of what shape that might eventually take.

After that...who knows? I think the key to it is if Russia and those Eastern and Central European nations that still maintain a traditional European identity can reach some kind of agreement with each other, which as they become surrounded by civilisational enemies might become a bit easier but who knows?

I will be long dead by then and would have hopefully offered my own a life-line by way of secure settlement options away from the mayhem

But until then, lets eat, drink and make merry. This is 4th Century Rome after all!

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Thanks Stirling - I enjoyed reading that -
As many will know I lived overseas for some 25 years so I often dont comment on political threads (Largely because I dont feel qualified as I didnt live that relevant portion of my life in this country) or when I do comment my political views tend to be kind of broad based & often quite simplistic, so its nice to read something where someone has lived that life & taken the time to share their thoughts / opinions -

Good to se that our Hong Kong friend is not below silly insults.

I most certainly am not, especially where appropriate IMHO

Do you mean " below " or above by the way.?

Being " not below " something infers you are above it.

I don't believe you meant to say I am above silly insults as that means I would not use a silly insult and therefore what I wrote is not a silly insult in your view.

Whistle while you work

And while we're at it , what does NF stand for in this quote?

"I see so much NF/Mail/Sun echo chamber stuff on here"

Edited by HKOwen (14 Sep 2022 9.52am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

And while we're at it , what does NF stand for in this quote?

"I see so much NF/Mail/Sun echo chamber stuff on here"

* take your time, am guessing it's not Nottingham Forest or Non-Fiction.

If you mean the National Front then you are saying that the content of this message board has " so much " NF echo chamber stuff.

This means that you are of basically accusing the mods of allowing National Front stuff to be posted on here without reproach or comment.

You also imply the Sun and Daily Mail are National Front supportive newspapers which IMHO is nonsense.

Edited by HKOwen (14 Sep 2022 11.10am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

I tip my hat, cheers.

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