Go away with your self righteous cobblers.

If you join this club then you better not be a snowflake.

Unlike you, he isn't.

I personally think it's wide open really in terms of leadship challenges, and still certainly not a foregone conclusion that Boris will even go. While there are certainly factions factoring this challenger or that including Hunt (as well as this future or that) I don't see it as Huny having it sewn up and can't see it as being a wise move politically for the Conservatives themselves to try to undo Brexit! Of course I could be wrong.

Penny Mordaunt and Tom Tugendhat appear to have a decent amount of support (including in the betting markets) and others. It's really too early to say that it simply must lead in this direction or that. Uncertain times though, I agree!

Unfortunately you are incorrect. You likely know that and and no doubt this latest installment is a performance in favour of an endless back and forth about it. Not happening. There is a big difference between cruely and relentlessly mocking the elderly on grounds of age and highlighting (not mocking) that someone is behaving in a way that makes me question their mental health. Observation vs willfully macabre. If you're the one wanting to get 'snowflake' like about that I suggest you talk to your doctor about it.

Get back on topic..

Edited by BlueJay (07 Jun 2022 12.42pm)

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Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

It's highlighting and making mockery of the delusion that persons in politics are serving the nation as best possible and not their own interests.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Totally wrong end of the stick.

On June 15th 2016, I genuinely believed the vote the following day would settle the matter.

The following day the biggest single exercise in direct democracy in the UK took place. Massive turn out, each vote equally weighted, a simple binary question and a pledge that the result would be acted upon.

Leave won.

That should have been it. Yes, a debate/argument about how we left, then fair enough. That is politics. But the very notion of somehow trying to usurp that vote, an utter, and ongoing, disgrace.

If somebody voted Remain on June 16th I have zero problems with them. They turned out to vote and did so for whatever reason.

If a person then continued to campaign/promote the notion of somehow imposing a second vote on the same issue, then utter scum. I have zero time for them and have cut people out of my life based on that.

The division has been created by any and everybody who campaigned for a second referendum. And it is now so deep, that it will colour every aspect of UK politics forever. Probably until the day the UK ceases to exist.

If a political party wishes to campaign in a general election on a manifesto of either reapplying to join the EU or hold another referendum then best of the British to them. People can vote accordingly on that.

But that's not going to happen. Labour will fudge the issue, probably be able to form a coalition with the SNP and the Lib-Dems after the next election, based on current polling, which will be dependent on us effectively rejoining the EU by way of their new partner's conditions. The Tories will then be faced with a choice. To either become the party of English nationalism, where a majority of people will still wish not to be part of the EU, or else fade away, to be replaced by a party that has English nationalism at its very core.

And then ALL bets are off.

With the blame for that laying squarely at the feet of Remain Retards who cannot grasp the simple fact that 52, when expressed as a percentage, beats 48.

Perhaps I was naive on June 16th 2016 in believing that the result would be the result. But I ain't so naive now.

Edited by Matov (07 Jun 2022 1.26pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.