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 Teddy Eagle  20 Jun 22 10.24am |
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Monty Python is starting to look like a documentary.
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Pembroke  Bristol 20 Jun 22 11.31am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I agree, this all sounds perfectly sensible. We all have a different path in life and it's all too easy to pontificate about what someone else should do when we're not in their shoes. That has to though, be set within understood realities though. As you say a biological woman is a woman, and a trans woman can never be that, and so language, sense and law should factor that in rather than magic away differences that will always be there. Law already makes a distinction. Equalities law and the gender recognition act makes a distinction. The percentile of the population who identify as trans remain the sex of their birth, until they gain a gender recognition certificate. Those that do gain GRC by meeting a linear criteria over a period of two years, are a percentile of the percentile.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jun 22 12.24pm |
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There are only a tiny percentage of trans people. Only the most extreme of them would expect to be recognized as actual women and be allowed, for example, to compete in women's sport. Anyone else who would support such extremism, is either being paid to, or has only self interest. It is a non story being kicked around by the media and being taken seriously by the usual dim witted lefty civil servant types.
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| Spiderman Horsham 20 Jun 22 12.54pm |
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And isn’t the reply from the blood transfusion authority the biggest load of bollox Edited by Spiderman (20 Jun 2022 12.55pm)
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 20 Jun 22 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Monty Python is starting to look like a documentary. Hope they don’t ask me if I’m pregnant when I next donate sperm…
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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 becky over the moon 20 Jun 22 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Hope they don’t ask me if I’m pregnant when I next donate sperm… But is that from a male or a female p****?
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 20 Jun 22 3.37pm |
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Originally posted by becky
But is that from a male or a female p****? I haven’t decided what I will self-identify as yet…
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 20 Jun 22 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
I haven’t decided what I will self-identify as yet… Don't worry you can change your mind anytime if you fancy it... apparently.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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| YT Oxford 20 Jun 22 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Monty Python is starting to look like a documentary. A bit like this documentary. [Link]
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BlueJay  UK 21 Jun 22 11.46am |
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I doubt even most trans people have any kind of ardent belief regarding this sports issue, because it clearly doesn't make a lot of sense. It's more like an attempt to cheat really, based on physicality. Much like those who take steroids to create are perpetually in denial, it doesn't surprise me that someone with a male physique at massive advantage could convince themselves that they're somehow not cheating based on duff science. You can't blame women one bit for trying to uphold the integrity of the sport, rather than turn it into some kind of tnaything goes. Sports bodies are making the right decisions.
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| BlueJay UK 21 Jun 22 11.47am |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
I haven’t decided what I will self-identify as yet… A caramac bar
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| Teddy Eagle 21 Jun 22 12.25pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I doubt even most trans people have any kind of ardent belief regarding this sports issue, because it clearly doesn't make a lot of sense. It's more like an attempt to cheat really, based on physicality. Much like those who take steroids to create are perpetually in denial, it doesn't surprise me that someone with a male physique at massive advantage could convince themselves that they're somehow not cheating based on duff science. You can't blame women one bit for trying to uphold the integrity of the sport, rather than turn it into some kind of tnaything goes. Sports bodies are making the right decisions. Why should the feelings of a trans person be more important than those of a female athlete who's trained for years?
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