It is the left who think it ok for a man to proclaim he is a woman, or a woman to proclaim she is a man and to give them all sorts of 'rights' bascially because they maintain 'that is who I am' live with it. Not a big leap for a paedophile to argue along the same lines. If the left are daft enough to accept tthe former, they are are daft enough to accept the latter.

That people historically (and sometimes currently) see those 'changing sex' as perplexing or strange has little to do with adults having sex with children. It's just another way (following doing so to 'the left') to infer that a group of people are moral equivalents to child sex abusers. It speaks to a detachment from huge swaths of the population, the vast majority of whom hold the same view, left or right.

On a wider scale, whether the church, childrens homes, grooming gangs, multiple institutions and governments of all political stripes (if anything most of these groups are conservative in nature, but i wouldn't suggest its 'accepted') sat by and failed this nation and its children for decades, as often did families when it perversely was more of a 'taboo' to be a victim of abuse than to be the perpetrator. That's the thing, if you listen to music from say the 60s, blurring the lines wasn't particularly deemed as crime of the century, but this certainly wasn't something confined to the left or right.

It's a running joke that several people around Tommy Robinson (someone who like him or loathe him clearly did his bit on shining a light on something authorities ignored) have been banged up for child abuse. They are not on 'the left'. Indeed there are most certainly fringe individuals and groups on the far right that hold unhealthy views in this very area (look and you shall find), just as you appear to infer that there are on the far left. It's kind of the nature of the beast, the extreme people hold extreme beliefs. There is however absolutely no indication that 99.9% of people find any of this acceptance regardless of their politics. It's one issue that unites rather than divides. Thankfully.

Let me make it clear I'm not on here saying that only left wing people engage in child sex or abuse.....actually I think you know that. I agree that most are abhorred by it. What I'm saying is that its political activism only exists on the left and that it's considered 'progressivism' in the same fashion that transgenderism was....indeed, the foundational texts that supported transgenderism also supported pedophilia.

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In trying to escape from every expanding conversations (busy day sorry!) all I will say that is that it's simply untrue that "its political activism only exists on the left". As stated there are far right groups and individuals that have very unhealthy views in this regard too. None of the societal changes you state infer any encouragement of, road to, or link to pedophilia, it's just a strategy to demonise groups or political persuasions you dislike. This isn't really a conversation that's going anywhere, so maybe it's best to leave it there.

I see that the North Londoner has been charged with murder & other terror activities.

The constitution and separation occurred precisely because of tyranny Mainey. You don't seem to understand that it specifically concentrates on freedoms and speech is in there on the very first amendment and that's obviously in response to an environment where it was restricted.

There was no incitement of violence on January 6th, that's you living in your fantasy world. But you seem to forget the senseless murder of a women by the security forces....you guys whitewashed that out.

Just like you washed out 18 months of rioting by your friends in blm and antifa. You don't get away with that Mainey it's going to be raised everytime.

As for how the secession process goes, why should I have an opinion on that? I just want it to be peaceful and allow the two sides to live how they want. That could be worked out....ask your Democrat friends as 40 percent of them want that as well.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 8.00am)