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Mapletree Croydon 06 Oct 21 10.21pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It wouldn't have happened. Half of us would be dead from covid because labour would still be in the EU and our jabs would be far lower. Then many of the rich would have left to stop the snatch of their dosh and don't even imagine what tax rises would be coming to give to the workshy,feckless oxygen theives. Furlough would be means tested in favour of the above so I would say don't wish too hard as it might come true. Which EU country would you compare us with? Our vaccination rate per hundred is below our peers, something our Government never mentions.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 06 Oct 21 10.40pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The press always try and dig up dirt on everyone, most of the time they barely need to dig. Corbyn had a few pretty unfortunate associations. However, digging up dirt on Corbyn wasn't the reason he was hammered at the GE. It was mostly because the manifesto was awful. They've also dug up loads of dirt of the Tories, but people don't care if you are perceived to be doing a good job. After a while, everyone recognises that governments have had to make dodge deals from time to time. In the case of track and trace the options were to pay up now or wait even long for a system to be set up. Not an ideal choice for policy makers. It's difficult to argue another party wouldn't have done the same, which is why criticising the decision isn't a vote winner. What does seem to win elections is positive slogans and manifestos that make people optimistic. New Labour, New Britian If you want Labour to win an election, best to promote their claims of how they will do things better than the Tories. I"m not to bothered now jeegles, but will hold to account anyone in who is useless, and thats bungle and his cronies! I would do the same if sir keir was in and was just as bad-it"s the thieving and threatening to break international law , that he signed off a few months before, in an "oven ready" deal, that are making us a joke!
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cryrst The garden of England 07 Oct 21 5.04am | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I"m not to bothered now jeegles, but will hold to account anyone in who is useless, and thats bungle and his cronies! I would do the same if sir keir was in and was just as bad-it"s the thieving and threatening to break international law , that he signed off a few months before, in an "oven ready" deal, that are making us a joke! Do you really care what others think about the UK. I'm sure the eu don't care what we think of them.
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cryrst The garden of England 07 Oct 21 5.14am | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Nobodys talking about socialism mate, just let this bunch of thieves know we aint happy with them andhow they are ruining the country! Even a cabinet clear out with someone in charge who dont lie and break rules every day would be a plus, maybe the chancellor? This is the worst bunch of freeloaders in gov I can remember, the country is falling apart, lucky its not mid summerwith a heat wave because I think the whole place could go up! How exactly have you personally been affected by how the country is being run. Your poor mothers sad passing was horrible and did happen to many people and families very unexpectedly due to covid
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 21 6.49am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Do you really care what others think about the UK. I'm sure the eu don't care what we think of them. As our reputation for honesty and integrity is probably our only significant internationally worthwhile asset, we all ought to care what others think of us. The damage that Johnson has done with his Arthur Daley impression will take a long time to repair.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 07 Oct 21 8.07am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
How exactly have you personally been affected by how the country is being run. Your poor mothers sad passing was horrible and did happen to many people and families very unexpectedly due to covid Boris could take a s*** on your front doorstep and you’d turn round and say ‘well, where else could he have gone?’
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DanH SW2 07 Oct 21 8.56am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Boris could take a s*** on your front doorstep and you’d turn round and say ‘well, where else could he have gone?’ He would care if it is was his front doorstep. Not his neighbour's though.
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jeeagles 07 Oct 21 9.42am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As our reputation for honesty and integrity is probably our only significant internationally worthwhile asset, we all ought to care what others think of us. The damage that Johnson has done with his Arthur Daley impression will take a long time to repair. Having goods and service people want to buy is our main asset. Fortunately, we've always punched above our weight in this area. Reputation is important, but British businesses generally have a good reputation and people other countries want to deal with. Some of the things Boris has done might have tarnished that, but if you look externally, Xi Jinping, Trump, Bolsonaro and others haven't really done much to increase the worlds trust in their nations either. Silvo Berlisconi is still an MEP. Boris has also only really broken rules when he's been forced into a corner. Which is why claims against him aren't winning the middle ground. I'm not sure people in Britain are enamoured with his leadership, I think that the majority of people would vote for a more left leaning party if they believed they could be trusted with securing peoples jobs. It's going to take all of this term, and the next term for Labour to stand a chance. Plus they will need to make major gains against the SNP to do it.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 21 10.05am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Having goods and service people want to buy is our main asset. Fortunately, we've always punched above our weight in this area. Reputation is important, but British businesses generally have a good reputation and people other countries want to deal with. Some of the things Boris has done might have tarnished that, but if you look externally, Xi Jinping, Trump, Bolsonaro and others haven't really done much to increase the worlds trust in their nations either. Silvo Berlisconi is still an MEP. Boris has also only really broken rules when he's been forced into a corner. Which is why claims against him aren't winning the middle ground. I'm not sure people in Britain are enamoured with his leadership, I think that the majority of people would vote for a more left leaning party if they believed they could be trusted with securing peoples jobs. It's going to take all of this term, and the next term for Labour to stand a chance. Plus they will need to make major gains against the SNP to do it. When you helped to write those rules, you have painted yourself into the corner and not been forced there. When your "oven-ready" deal turns out to have poisonous ingredients and tastes like sh*t when it comes out of the oven, giving everyone who has to eat it not only a bad taste but fails to provide sufficient sustenance, then the only person to blame is the chef.
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jeeagles 07 Oct 21 10.27am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When you helped to write those rules, you have painted yourself into the corner and not been forced there. When your "oven-ready" deal turns out to have poisonous ingredients and tastes like sh*t when it comes out of the oven, giving everyone who has to eat it not only a bad taste but fails to provide sufficient sustenance, then the only person to blame is the chef. Well put, but like getting rid of a failing football manager, after assigning accountability the next step is working out who you will replace them with. I'm still relatively optimistic about Brexit. Mostly because we have no other option. Whilst the vote didn't go the way I wanted, we need to respect the outcome, otherwise it opens the door to those who don't respect democracy at all.
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steeleye20 Croydon 07 Oct 21 10.37am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Well put, but like getting rid of a failing football manager, after assigning accountability the next step is working out who you will replace them with. I'm still relatively optimistic about Brexit. Mostly because we have no other option. Whilst the vote didn't go the way I wanted, we need to respect the outcome, otherwise it opens the door to those who don't respect democracy at all. Intel says Brexit means it is no longer considering the UK as the site to build a major new chip factory as part of its $95bn (£70bn) global expansion plans. Pat Gelsinger, the chief executive of the world’s largest maker of semiconductors, said they were now only considering European Union member states to host a new European site. Just to help with your brexit optimism.
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cryrst The garden of England 07 Oct 21 11.29am | |
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You leftys are truly one eyed.
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