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  Hrolf The Ganger  27 Sep 21 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by kuge
What is all the more surprising is that the Tories have been able to fabricate an image that appeals to people who are of sufficient gullibility that they believe these privately educated millionaire incompetents are somehow ‘one of them’. Quite apart from being selected from a veritable ‘talent marmite’ of barrel-scraping, they all quite simply all completely out of their depth. It is entirely clear that if any of them ever attempted a career in the real world they would be rejected as substandard. These are people with an inability to fully comprehend their own inadequacies should not be in charge of anything let alone the country. Their intellectual failings backed up by moral integrity weaker than damp cardboard. The idea that these people have any interest in the situation of the majority of those that vote for them is risible. We have an electorate so gaslit that the albedo of ignorance could light a small town. An electorate suffering from a collective form of a variant on Stockholm syndrome. The Tories are the least worst option, as Labour have proved every time they get elected.
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| AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 27 Sep 21 6.25pm |
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Didn't seem to offend the bigots when Johnson got elected on statements about tank top bumboys and letterboxes/bank robbers. Hypocrites!
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| chris123 hove actually 27 Sep 21 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
Didn't seem to offend the bigots when Johnson got elected on statements about tank top bumboys and letterboxes/bank robbers. Hypocrites! Any Labour colleagues backing her - best seems to be understand where she's coming from, but not language I'd use?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 27 Sep 21 6.41pm |
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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
Didn't seem to offend the bigots when Johnson got elected on statements about tank top bumboys and letterboxes/bank robbers. Hypocrites! Logically Rayner is now PM material!
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| Stirlingsays 27 Sep 21 6.59pm |
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I actually hopes she takes over from Starmer. The rule changes are a complete two fingers to their membership. The leader of a party really should reflect it.
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BlueJay  UK 27 Sep 21 8.11pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Logically Rayner is now PM material! The edgy political fag ash lil
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 27 Sep 21 10.17pm |
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Owen Jones was offended Originally posted by AuntyAnne70
Didn't seem to offend the bigots when Johnson got elected on statements about tank top bumboys and letterboxes/bank robbers. Hypocrites!
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| CPFC1965 Warrington 27 Sep 21 11.11pm |
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Tories are fascist scum etc is part and parcel of what the left what to present. Four failed elections have shown how ineffective they really are, especially outside of London. The Tories gave us Austerity they cried, and the truth was that they had mismanaged the economy so badly and brought us to the brink of bankruptcy and the possibility of having to apply for an IMF loan. 40 years ago, when the North was unionised, to not vote Labour was to be branded a scab, their rhetoric rang a bell. Now we're not, we're middle class, we've escaped the pits, we still have the same ideals of a progressive labour party but what we have seen is a return to the militant 70's. Labour lost the Red Wall because we voted to leave the EU, Corbyn and his acolytes chose to ignore us and WE voted NO. Labour treated their Northern membership with utter contempt, Rayner is nothing more than a Trade Union puppet who forgets she is a Manchester MP. I'll continue to vote Labour in the mayoral elections, because they know how to run regional systems and are competent at that level, but Nationally/Internationally I have grave doubts.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 27 Sep 21 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by kuge
Yes, they may well be just a different barrel. I would agree entirely that at present Labour appear bereft of policies and ideas. It's a global condition in politics. Yesterday's election in Germany has brought about a balance of power that reflects the views of the population. The coalition that emerges will no doubt continue to govern Germany in a similar fashion to previous governments. mostly the public are not given a choice.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Sep 21 4.49am |
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Good post IMO Labour being good at local level depends where you live, certainly not in Croydon Originally posted by CPFC1965
Tories are fascist scum etc is part and parcel of what the left what to present. Four failed elections have shown how ineffective they really are, especially outside of London. The Tories gave us Austerity they cried, and the truth was that they had mismanaged the economy so badly and brought us to the brink of bankruptcy and the possibility of having to apply for an IMF loan. 40 years ago, when the North was unionised, to not vote Labour was to be branded a scab, their rhetoric rang a bell. Now we're not, we're middle class, we've escaped the pits, we still have the same ideals of a progressive labour party but what we have seen is a return to the militant 70's. Labour lost the Red Wall because we voted to leave the EU, Corbyn and his acolytes chose to ignore us and WE voted NO. Labour treated their Northern membership with utter contempt, Rayner is nothing more than a Trade Union puppet who forgets she is a Manchester MP. I'll continue to vote Labour in the mayoral elections, because they know how to run regional systems and are competent at that level, but Nationally/Internationally I have grave doubts.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Sep 21 4.51am |
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I agree, give her as much air time as possible and fingers crossed make her leader. Not answering questions is common to all politicians. Originally posted by croydon proud
To be fair to Ange, it"s refreshing to see a politician speak the truth and be original at the same time! The amount of CON mp"s , being interviewed and not going anywhere near answering the question is frustrating to say the least! I wouldn"t give them the hot air time! More of the same please Angela , a refreshing change!
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Sep 21 4.52am |
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Me too If there was another leadership election and she runs I will join Labour to vote for her. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I actually hopes she takes over from Starmer. The rule changes are a complete two fingers to their membership. The leader of a party really should reflect it. Edited by HKOwen (28 Sep 2021 4.53am)
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