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kuge Peckham 20 Sep 21 10.39am | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Australia is free to do business as it pleases. Originally a very big deal was made out of France getting the contract. The UK was snubbed. The French have not delivered and now Australia is free to dump them. A lot of the rhetoric on here seems to suggest somehow that China are the good guys and Britain, the US and Australia are sabre rattling. The simple questions could be: are China great, are the people free? The sabre-rattling is happening on all sides. The thing is the Chinese actually have some sabres whereas the UK has a couple of pen knives and a soup ladle. The US have plenty of sabres but they generally rattle them too late in the wrong direction. An example of this was the Trump administration with North Korea, who keep saying that they definitely have a sabre. The Korean sabre is almost certainly not a very good one. It makes a lot of noise when it’s rattled but it’s also likely that the blade will fall off. As for the Australians, they have some sabres on their wish list and they say that they will almost certainly rattle them when they arrive in about 10 years time. Up until then, they will just tell the Chinese that they are cross and see if that works.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Sep 21 10.51am | |
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There is no British base in Singapore. I have been to Sembawang many times. The bunkering is handled by a private companies. A handful of personnel does not constitute a base. My question was primarily to the poster who stated there was a base in Singapore. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They are both based at Sembawang, but are tiny compared to what used to be there. Ours has only 2 or 3 personnel and exists to organise bunkering facilities for visiting ships. I know because in 2018 I visited and had lunch with their officers at "HMS Terror". This used to be the officers club at our naval base but is now run by the US military who now dominate everything there. Sembawang dockyard, which was our naval base, is now a privately owned business in which we lease an office. I was there to lay a wreath on the memorial to the sinking of the HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse in 1941 by Japanese bombers. My father, who was on the POW survived but lost many shipmates. Security was very high, but I was given a tour of the dockyard and saw where the POW was berthed before its last voyage. The dockyard is huge, and we must have had a very significant presence there at one time. Not now. Edited by HKOwen (20 Sep 2021 10.59am) Edited by HKOwen (20 Sep 2021 11.00am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 21 11.42am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
There is no British base in Singapore. I have been to Sembawang many times. The bunkering is handled by a private companies. A handful of personnel does not constitute a base. My question was primarily to the poster who stated there was a base in Singapore.
Edited by HKOwen (20 Sep 2021 11.00am) You love arguing over semantics, don't you. Whether you want to call it a "base" is up to you. It's all that we have there now permanently, and it's at Sembawang. I saw it with my own eyes when I went to the Terror Club, which is now a facility run by the US forces. I didn't say the bunkering was done by our personnel! I said they organised it. Which they do. Not just for British ships, but for those of our allies.
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IMMER PALACE BIELEFELD 20 Sep 21 11.50am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You love arguing over semantics, don't you. Whether you want to call it a "base" is up to you. It's all that we have there now permanently, and it's at Sembawang. I saw it with my own eyes when I went to the Terror Club, which is now a facility run by the US forces. I didn't say the bunkering was done by our personnel! I said they organised it. Which they do. Not just for British ships, but for those of our allies. He shouldn't confuse size with significance. The British Defence Singapore Support Unit exists as a demonstrable commitment to the five powers defence arrangement. People love to run the country down.
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 20 Sep 21 3.22pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Where is the British military base in Singapore?
Edited by HKOwen (20 Sep 2021 10.52am) Direct link to the Royal Navy. Our presence is not huge however its there, also numbers go up and numbers go down, it depends very much on what British ships dock there. I would imagine in coming years we'll see a swelling of our numbers in the region. Wisbech is 100% spot on with his post. As for the wiki link you can type 'white monkey' & china into google and get pretty much an unlimited amount of links to what im talking about, wiki was conveniently at the top. As you know the ccp rarely release info directly instead they opt to put information out via their state media, if it comes from chinese media its a sure bet its been approved from the top. Edited by Ouzo Dan (20 Sep 2021 3.24pm)
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Sep 21 11.47pm | |
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Semantics is an excuse often used by the incorrect.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 20 Sep 21 11.49pm | |
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I am not running the country down at all. What you call semantics are called details. If people on here want to post predictions of what is going to happen militarily in the part of the world where I live then being accurate has importance, at least to me. Originally posted by IMMER PALACE
He shouldn't confuse size with significance. The British Defence Singapore Support Unit exists as a demonstrable commitment to the five powers defence arrangement. People love to run the country down. Edited by HKOwen (20 Sep 2021 11.59pm)
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Orange1290 21 Sep 21 2.16am | |
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How's Hong Kong going under Chinese rule? More to come....
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HKOwen Hong Kong 21 Sep 21 9.32am | |
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Are you suggesting the wife of the Belgian guy was some kind of CCP setup? Honey trap? Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Direct link to the Royal Navy. Our presence is not huge however its there, also numbers go up and numbers go down, it depends very much on what British ships dock there. I would imagine in coming years we'll see a swelling of our numbers in the region. Wisbech is 100% spot on with his post. As for the wiki link you can type 'white monkey' & china into google and get pretty much an unlimited amount of links to what im talking about, wiki was conveniently at the top. As you know the ccp rarely release info directly instead they opt to put information out via their state media, if it comes from chinese media its a sure bet its been approved from the top. Edited by Ouzo Dan (20 Sep 2021 3.24pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Sep 21 2.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
How's Hong Kong going under Chinese rule? More to come.... You obviously think it's better. We can always ask the Uighurs and Tibetans too. Barely ever seen such brainwashed rubbish. Were you captured in Vietnam and forced to play Russian roulette? How long did you spend in re-education?
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Sep 21 2.37pm | |
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Here is the EU trying to bully Australia. Let's spell two things out for our pro China and EU brainwashed posters.
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 21 Sep 21 2.59pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Are you suggesting the wife of the Belgian guy was some kind of CCP setup? Honey trap? Yes I am. Also you're incredibly hard work to converse with on here.
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