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Spiderman Horsham 09 Sep 21 7.06am | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
It's a nice area. They've built a lot of flats round and about so young people can get on the housing ladder.... unfortunately, they haven't built any new houses so slightly less young people can't move out. Then huge amounts of housing stock in the area is taken up by empty nesters. Looking at my parents roads, at least half the houses are 3/4 bedroom with retired couples in them. Whilst I may be completely heartless, if my parents had to sell their house to fund care then it wouldn't be the end of the world. They have no mortgage left. Another, option would be to refinance the house on an interest only mortgage to pay for funding, then sell it when they pop their clogs. They are asset rich, it would help free up housing stock, it might slow down the constant rises in house prices, it would end this cycle where future generations would have to keep taking on the financial burdens of future generations. Although, this idea might not work outside of the south east of England so may require some tweaking. Your 2nd and 3rd paragraph are interesting, as we had a similar conversation recently. In our road I would estimate that 50% of the properties are occupied by 1/2 people, many 4 bed houses, several also own other properties as well. They indeed should finance their own care IMO. My 91 yo mother in law lives in a 3 bed detached house, obviously mortgage free, despite my wife losing her inheritance, we both agree any care should be self funded.
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manwitheagletattoo Somewhere in England 09 Sep 21 7.59am | |
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To be honest it was inevitable that some where down the line money was going to be clawed back and taxes would rise. What I cannot understand is companies like Amazon uk and others that pay very little tax but make huge profits in this country. If these mega companies paid their due then, I not saying it would cover tax hikes but it seems as always one rule for them another for the working class.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Sep 21 8.09am | |
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yet again, working people are being hit hardest. There might be some crumbs of comfort if Social Care was going to operate as it was intended to. Even screwing the working person, is inevitably going to lead to a sharp decline in social services as the rich get richer.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 09 Sep 21 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I agree. My daughter and her boyfriend are both Senior Spacecraft Engineers, so earn good money. My daughter left University with well over £50k in debt, which has interest added as well. It's a really good example - if two people earning that well can't buy a house, there really is no hope for the vast majority.
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Sep 21 9.50am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Claiming someone has been ‘indoctrinated’ when there’s a wealth of academic studies out there on the housing market just makes you look like an arrogant and ignorant tit you realise, don’t you? Academic studies? And what do they tell us? What is funny is that you were told this would happen with such a high influx of immigrants, and now it has, you still won't accept it. By the way, have you notice that so called academic studies are not always entirely unbiased. I wonder why that could be.
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DanH SW2 09 Sep 21 10.11am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Academic studies? And what do they tell us? What is funny is that you were told this would happen with such a high influx of immigrants, and now it has, you still won't accept it. By the way, have you notice that so called academic studies are not always entirely unbiased. I wonder why that could be. Price is linked to both demand and supply. There are many, many factors which impact both. It's basic economics, not rocket science. Immigration is a factor which affects demand, which has a knock on effect on price, but it is by no means the only or even the strongest one.
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Sep 21 10.23am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Price is linked to both demand and supply. There are many, many factors which impact both. It's basic economics, not rocket science. Immigration is a factor which affects demand, which has a knock on effect on price, but it is by no means the only or even the strongest one. But it is, because a town's worth of people arrive here every year. We cannot build houses fast enough. If your ideological persuasions disallow you from seeing this, then I will not persuade you. The people that need persuading are those that are capable of objectivity.
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BlueJay UK 09 Sep 21 10.26am | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
yet again, working people are being hit hardest. There might be some crumbs of comfort if Social Care was going to operate as it was intended to. Even screwing the working person, is inevitably going to lead to a sharp decline in social services as the rich get richer. Yes, I can't help but think there must be a better way of bringing this in that doesn't hit those on low wages. Government are definitely more concerned with not hitting their rich mates disproportionately, than they are the poor. The trouble is, it's not like any of the other parties are genuine parties of the working man either nowadays.
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DanH SW2 09 Sep 21 10.45am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But it is, because a town's worth of people arrive here every year. We cannot build houses fast enough. If your ideological persuasions disallow you from seeing this, then I will not persuade you. The people that need persuading are those that are capable of objectivity. This current trend of absolute wilful ignorance is staggering. You're so entrenched in your views that you don't even want to consider anything else.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 09 Sep 21 10.49am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
This current trend of absolute wilful ignorance is staggering. You're so entrenched in your views that you don't even want to consider anything else. you are holding up a mirror to yourself there DanH. Does the fact that so few Hol-Eagles ever agree with you not nudge you out of your Lefty Torpor ?
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dreamwaverider London 09 Sep 21 10.55am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
1.25% point increase on employees’ and employers’ National Insurance Contributions, a 10% increase on current rates, to pay for state subsidised social care. Given that it’s only those employed and their employers that pay this tax and no one over 65, whether employed or not, pays it or not, is this fair? Unearned income such as rental profits, dividends, interest etc. not subject to NIC. A tax that only hits the younger, working, less wealthy population. Given the demographic on here I’m sure you’re all delighted my generation will be working the next 30 years to pay for someone to wipe your arse in a couple of year’s time but thoughts on here? A manifesto pledge broken by Johnson but does anyone give a sh*t what he does or doesn’t do or say? Edited by DanH (07 Sep 2021 5.37pm)
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dreamwaverider London 09 Sep 21 10.57am | |
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My prediction is that this will hugely damage what is left of social care and dilute services to virtually nothing.
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