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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 25 Nov 21 9.37am | |
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He's a brilliant asset for our football club, no doubt about it.
Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled. |
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palace99 New Mills 29 Nov 21 6.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Ketteridge
Midlands- Do not know if you can answer this but how does Parish stake remain the same if this is new investment into the club. i wouldn't classify myself as a bean counter but to invest in a business that has shares there are 2 ways. You either purchase some of the already issued shares or the company issues new shares and you purchase those. Only the latter generates new money for the company. So when the 4 CPFC 2010 guys bought the club they each held 25% of the club so let's assume you had 25 shares each (100 in total). When the 2 Americans (Harris and Blitzer ??) originally bought in i assume new shares were issued and possibly some of the existing shares were purchased as the share mix changed. I think those 2 plus SP had 18% each and the remaining 3 were reduced to 46%. So if 40 new shares were issued (140 in total) SP's 25 would now be 25/140 = c18%. The Americans would have bought the extra 40 shares giving the club this extra money on the balance sheet plus it appears a small % of the others shares to reduce their holding slightly and giving them some of their investment back. When the new investment was recently made if SP has the same % either the new investor bought some of the original shares off the other existing shareholders or more shares were issued and potentially SP bought some of these too (or did so in lieu of salary etc). So if new investor, John Textor, owns 18% and SP still owns 18% maybe say 39 new shares were issued and SP bought 7 of these so now has 32 and Textor bought the other 32. 32/179 = c18%. Hope that makes sense.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Nov 21 8.10pm | |
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He is in serious talks to invest/takeover the other 'Eagles' . . . Benfica. He tried to do this 2/3yrs ago but C19 got in the way.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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sydtheeagle England 29 Nov 21 9.14pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
With Textor's 18% valued at 87.5 mil, that means somebody reckons the club's worth 450 mil or more. There's no way it's worth that. You're quite wrong about that. Palace's stated revenue in the 2019/20 season was 2 million so a valuation of 0 million would be around 2.5x revenues, which is pretty reasonable/sober. In hot markets I've seen businesses sell for over 10x revenue. 2.5x in the ever-expanding football business with new media deals constantly being signed seems like a sensible enough valuation and, as the Textor deal proves, one likely to attract investors. The other thing people seem not to grasp is that Harris and Blitzer are seriously wealthy. Yes, they're not state-backed oligarchs fronting for nations and thus playing with silly money (which, in reality, is the advantage of being owned by a kleptocracy) but they're plenty wealthy enough to do what needs to be done. Liverpool won the title and remain up there with ownership that, financially, is more or less a twin of Harris and Blitzer. The notion that our owners have less deep pockets than anyone else in the PL bar the very select few mentioned above is just plain wrong. Edited by sydtheeagle (29 Nov 2021 9.17pm)
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sydtheeagle England 29 Nov 21 9.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Foxy0208
If any of you guys use Twitter engage with this guy. He chats back in a refreshingly honest way. Probably a bit unique for an overseas investor but he genuinely seems to get it. And he has watched When Eagles Dare and loved it! Should be compulsory for any investor! I don't know where SP found him but i think in years to come we will be glad he did. Whatever they do or don't know about football, most of the American investors/owners in the game are motivated by their love of sports and their desire to own successful teams. That doesn't mean they don't make mistakes (Shad Khan at Fulham, take a bow) but their heart is more often than not in the right place, something we Brits who are cynical about Yanks at the best of times, are often unwilling to see. They fundamentally differ from the state owned clubs (Chelsea, Man City, Newcastle, to some extent Everton) where the owners are on an out and out PR mission usually on behalf of their countries autocratic governments which gives them endlessly deep pockets and willingness to buy success at any price, but not because they actually care passionately about winning something; simply because it's good publicity for their often odious regimes.
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Wilbraham413 30 Nov 21 2.22am | |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
Liverpool won the title and remain up there with ownership that, financially, is more or less a twin of Harris and Blitzer. The notion that our owners have less deep pockets than anyone else in the PL bar the very select few mentioned above is just plain wrong. Edited by sydtheeagle (29 Nov 2021 9.17pm) Except the American owners who bought Liverpool (Fenway Sports Group) are used to spending big and getting results. They are wealthy businessmen who understand the business of sports. They spend big, and win frequently with their Red Sox baseball team. Harris and Blitzer are wealthy bloodsuckers, looking to line their pockets first, and they couldn't care less about winning anything or building anything. They are the worst type of rich owners you could possibly have. They are faceless leeches. Textor has more of a big spending mentality, unfortunately, he isn't nearly as wealthy as the other stakeholders.
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