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  Hrolf The Ganger  16 Jul 21 11.14am |
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sitdownstandup  16 Jul 21 11.15am |
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I thought the original post was pretty good. I think if anyone or their family was subject to continuing anonymous online attacks they'd want the person to be found and punished.
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jeeagles  16 Jul 21 11.20am |
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Whilst the idea had merit. It's not something I'd agree with. Some social justice campaigners are asking for the right to be forgotten online and want peoples privacy protected. Other more extreme groups are asking to defund the police. Yet this method hands over even more information to the authorities and businesses. Looking back, there was not this kind of reaction when Ashley Young and Ashley Cole both took two terrible consecutive penalties against Italy in 2012. It's fair to say it was a lower profile game, but what's changed. The Social Media companies use algorithm to start controversial discussion. It keeps people coming back and keeps them arguing until the sides become more and more entrenched. The social media companies and celebrities then make loads of money form this service. Celebrities do grumble from time to time but they don't really want the system to change. Divicive behaviour drives people onto their platforms and gives celebrities a bigger audience which returns bigger sponsorship. If you went into a bar where people suffered the most horrific abuse, you wouldn't go again, you'd probably campaign to get it shut down. You'd boycott anyone advertising or profiting from that bar in any way. Yet twitter and others seem completely unaffected by cancel culture either though it is responsibility for all sorts of abuse and stoking a culture war. The real solution is to take your business elsewhere. But celebrities are making money from it, newspapers are getting stories, and people are addicted to it. Stop using twitter.
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| Wilesy01 Bristol 16 Jul 21 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm not sure that argument stands up to scrutiny unless you include just about every characteristic. Most prejudice is aimed toward those that aren't like the majority. That has never been different. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Jul 2021 11.15am) But prejudice on such grounds is attributable to long histories of discrimination and violence against such groups that persist to this day. And I think we both know that.
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 16 Jul 21 11.41am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Come on, that's clearly a racist comment I've only laughed at a Lenny Henry joke once: Thug: Go back to where you come from Lenny (in his West Mids accent) What?! Dudley?
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jul 21 11.41am |
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Originally posted by Wilesy01
Bringing a person's race/gender/sexuality etc into an arbitrary insult quite directly implies an obvious prejudice. Otherwise why would you do it? And what value does bringing, say, race into an arbitrary insult add any value to it? Why does that matter? People have numerous prejudices about many things, it's in-built. And more to the point why does one genetic prejudice matter more than other genetic prejudices? Why does something have to bring value? Value is subjective to an individual. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 11.43am)
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| Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 16 Jul 21 11.44am |
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Originally posted by madcap_v2
Come on, that's clearly a racist comment I think Badger sees the abusive quality of the comment. However, is the call for repatriation actually a crime now in the UK? Even voluntary? Serious question.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 21 11.46am |
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Originally posted by Wilesy01
But prejudice on such grounds is attributable to long histories of discrimination and violence against such groups that persist to this day. And I think we both know that. Selective history. No group has a monopoly on discrimination, although the media might lead you to believe otherwise.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jul 21 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Wilesy01
But prejudice on such grounds is attributable to long histories of discrimination and violence against such groups that persist to this day. And I think we both know that. You mean east Africans against west Africans? What you are describing is worldwide. If Europeans were committing violence against minority groups then they wouldn't be risking their lives to get here.....and their descendants would be trying to go back to their ancestral homes.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 16 Jul 21 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
I think Badger sees the abusive quality of the comment. However, is the call for repatriation actually a crime now in the UK? Even voluntary? Serious question. No idea and personally, I think verbal abuse shouldn't be a crime or at best should be a grey area. Word's can hurt, sure but context is more important. I've been called a black c*** more times than I can remember, especially at football but most times I laugh it off. If someone called me a black c*** and gave me a shoeing, or I didn't get a job opportunity because of my skin colour and it was made clear that was the reason too, that would be important detail.
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| Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 16 Jul 21 12.02pm |
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The defacing of Rashford's mural was not racist according to the Police: A lot of people were interviewed and some did say, fairly, it was a sad thing to do to someone who has tried to help people in the country during Covid. However quite a few brought up the race angle and weren't challenged by reporters. Does this really mean criticizing a person of colour has the aroma of racism?
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 21 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
The defacing of Rashford's mural was not racist according to the Police: A lot of people were interviewed and some did say, fairly, it was a sad thing to do to someone who has tried to help people in the country during Covid. However quite a few brought up the race angle and weren't challenged by reporters. Does this really mean criticizing a person of colour has the aroma of racism? When there are protected ethnicities/religions/skin colours/sexualities/genders that does become the case. On someone spray painting a cock and balls with a couple of drops coming out of the top into the vicinity of Rashford's face, it may be immature and be low end criminal damage or vandalism. But it isn't racist unless that was the actual intent. Probably some kids.
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