Federalism and increased local autonomy are the answer. Even if by that logic then places like San Francisco can be sanctuary cities. So be it - no interest in going to California anyways as our hound dogs don't like noise from heavily populated areas.

From my view, its not that the Democrats actually care about minorities or climate change, or any boutique issue they cry about. They only care about power and about being the ones in charge. That being said Trump became an albatross for the GOP in the end, I truly believe he cost us the senate seats in Georgia by making the voting fraud and stolen election stuff a wedge issue amongst his own party.

The Republicans have opportunity to re-take the house, and white house in 2024 if they can offer up a coherent candidate. Biden will be 82 and on the midnight train to slab city, Kamala is only where she is in life because she got on her knees every step of the way. The GOP needs to be on their game.

For now the old trusty "Liberal International Order" is back in the drivers seat, and the sole beneficiary of the "Liberal International Order" is China - who oddly enough isn't liberal, international and maybe slightly orderly in their own revolting way.

TBF Wissie gives as good as he gets but his pompous know-all attitude gets people’s backs up. Everyone is entitled to their opinion be it on politics football etc but for him to just call opposite opinions bs or those expressing the views stupid on a regular basis leaves him open to criticism imo

Edited by Spiderman (21 Jan 2021 4.45pm)

For what its worth, the last I've seen of Gussett, him and his s*** kicking brother were spending their days on twitter living in the replies of Tory ministers around the time just before Corbyn got blown out last year.

Saddened you have to put up with this kind of thing Stirling and people say cancel culture doesnt exist....
He occasionally appears on my twitter timeline via cpfc links but i have no desire to ever converse with him again.

Genuinely the only person on here I have ever disliked

The mountains are calling & I must go.

Historically minorities have voted for Democrats. They understandable though as Democrats have courted them whereas contrary to your stance I believe that Republicans have had more to gain by nudging in the opposite direction. As demographics change, strategy does too. Racial minorities won't uniformly all vote in alignment as that process pans out. We're not going to have having 12 or 16 years of the same party in power in my view. The pendulum will move this way and that as it always has.

The noises he was putting out were often very 'go home'. That may well change when the party realise the numbers won't otherwise add up. I accept that he have success on the jobs front.

I don't see this as being a realistic outcome anytime soon. At least not for decades. I wouldn't like to guess beyond that as I do accept that the future can be very uncertain in a variety of ways. Granted immigration can change a country over time, but all in all I quite like the set up of the US rather than UK. States can in many ways take their own approach within reason and have their own character, so there's always somewhere for people to fit in regardless of their outlook.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Jan 2021 5.07pm)

I do think they will help bury him through fear of him running again, or against them. It likely won't be in such a blatant way that the finger can be pointed at them though. So I doubt he'll be convicted, but do see it likely that he'll not be allowed to run for office again.

If his popularity dials down enough (as is likely to some degree) they'll be pleased with that outcome in the short term at least. Of course though that he appealed in the first place is the sign that they are having problems appealing to their base. Also as they won't have a presidential candidate for another three years or so, Trump still has the advantage of being a much bigger voice than anyone else in the party right now. Time will tell if that continues to be the case.