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Stirlingsays 18 Sep 20 9.27am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You are aware of the Dunning-Kruger effect? You certainly should be Maple. Perhaps you should take an IQ test....you know, one that you don't think comes with a conspiracy. Honk honk.
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Mapletree Croydon 18 Sep 20 10.54am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You certainly should be Maple. Perhaps you should take an IQ test....you know, one that you don't think comes with a conspiracy. Honk honk. It is sad you never understood the point on IQ tests. Still, at least in your own mind you are superior to Africans.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Sep 20 11.04am | |
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Still interested to know in which part of the Croham Rd or Lloyd Park area Maple lives in and how long it takes to walk to even see a bus or a take away shop or perhaps anyone walking.
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Matov 18 Sep 20 12.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You are aware of the Dunning-Kruger effect?
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Stirlingsays 18 Sep 20 12.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It is sad you never understood the point on IQ tests. Still, at least in your own mind you are superior to Africans. Your 'point' was, to put it frankly, dim. It's a theory shot full of holes. And your second sentence sums up your relationship to the truth, which I consider much more depressing than your occasional dimness. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2020 1.03pm)
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Matov 18 Sep 20 1.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And your second sentence sums up your relationship to the truth, which I consider much more depressing than your occasional dimness.
It is the relationship with the truth that troubles me about almost everybody who proclaims themselves not to be racist because something is clearly not adding up. On the one hand they all seems to think there is this terrible evil of 'racism' in our world and yet only a tiny fraction of us identify as racists. Now if racism was truly as bad as many of them claim then us racists must wield incredible power and influence over our society. Which from my POV I struggle with. I think we need a scale of identifying just how anti-racist people are. Public declarations of how much of their friendship circles are non-white for example. Or how many times they have bent the knee by way of showing their support for BLM. Or how much of their privilege would they be willing to give up? What kind of salary cut would they take? Or be willing to give up their houses and so on. It is not enough to just declare you are not a racist because the sums simply do not add up. Accusing other people of being racist is simply not proof of your own innocence. Society needs a guage, a way of making people accountable for how much they detest racism. Perhaps a public record that people can sign up for to in terms of how much they are not part of this problem and more importantly, want they are willing to do themselves to cure it? Lets say you have a good job that has a racial imbalance in terms of the make up of others within that sector then be willing to give it up. And if you are not, then justify why you deserve your privilege. Ditto where you live and so on.I reckon badges would be a way to go so that others can see just how much you are 'down with the brown.' But people need to start being far more honest. If you truly believe that 'Black Lives Matter' then lets see some real proof. Otherwise I just have to assume you are a common or garden racist like I am. Just lacking the moral backbone to admit it.
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Mapletree Croydon 18 Sep 20 1.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Still interested to know in which part of the Croham Rd or Lloyd Park area Maple lives in and how long it takes to walk to even see a bus or a take away shop or perhaps anyone walking. What’s wrong with you? I live in Croydon. I go to the pub in Croydon. I shop in Croydon. I walk to the football. I have never claimed to live in a dangerous area, most of Croydon is pretty average. I have lived here all my life except when travelling for work. I am proud of Croydon and I don’t like people thinking it’s rough, although I and my family have worked in areas others may consider a bit tough. Croydon is an interesting place and I believe a bit unique. I offered my family a move to Prague and at that point we considered it. We decided we prefer Croydon. We miss it when we are away, and especially its multiculturalism.
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Mapletree Croydon 18 Sep 20 1.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Your 'point' was, to put it frankly, dim. It's a theory shot full of holes. And your second sentence sums up your relationship to the truth, which I consider much more depressing than your occasional dimness. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2020 1.03pm) Ah yes, eugenics is where it’s at eh? You have always failed to understand the logical difference between bias and conspiracy.
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cryrst The garden of England 18 Sep 20 1.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
It is the relationship with the truth that troubles me about almost everybody who proclaims themselves not to be racist because something is clearly not adding up. On the one hand they all seems to think there is this terrible evil of 'racism' in our world and yet only a tiny fraction of us identify as racists. Now if racism was truly as bad as many of them claim then us racists must wield incredible power and influence over our society. Which from my POV I struggle with. I think we need a scale of identifying just how anti-racist people are. Public declarations of how much of their friendship circles are non-white for example. Or how many times they have bent the knee by way of showing their support for BLM. Or how much of their privilege would they be willing to give up? What kind of salary cut would they take? Or be willing to give up their houses and so on. It is not enough to just declare you are not a racist because the sums simply do not add up. Accusing other people of being racist is simply not proof of your own innocence. Society needs a guage, a way of making people accountable for how much they detest racism. Perhaps a public record that people can sign up for to in terms of how much they are not part of this problem and more importantly, want they are willing to do themselves to cure it? Lets say you have a good job that has a racial imbalance in terms of the make up of others within that sector then be willing to give it up. And if you are not, then justify why you deserve your privilege. Ditto where you live and so on.I reckon badges would be a way to go so that others can see just how much you are 'down with the brown.' But people need to start being far more honest. If you truly believe that 'Black Lives Matter' then lets see some real proof. Otherwise I just have to assume you are a common or garden racist like I am. Just lacking the moral backbone to admit it. I asked this very point way back on a thread.
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Matov 18 Sep 20 1.53pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I asked this very point way back on a thread. For me the question has to be posed the otherway around. You cannot be a little bit racist. You either are or you are not. So lets go with the supposition put forward by many on the left that in terms of racism if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. Now part of the solution is clearly reparations. Personally I am not willing to part with a single sou but then again, I accept that I am part of the problem. What I want to know is how much other white people, who see themselves as part of the solution, would be willing to cough up. Because it has to be voluntary right? So anybody who proclaims themselves as being non-racist, how much extra would you be willing to pay as say a tax on white privilege right at this moment in time?
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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 18 Sep 20 3.08pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I asked this very point way back on a thread.
If it risked making them worse off they didn't want to know. But as a conscience-cleansing exercise it made them feel better about themselves. Hypocrites.
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Matov 18 Sep 20 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by mezzer
If it risked making them worse off they didn't want to know. But as a conscience-cleansing exercise it made them feel better about themselves. Hypocrites. Actually they are more akin to addicts. Almost of the white people doing this BLM s*** are just seeking the next endorphin hit. They get a real buzz out of it all and for many it is probably the most exciting thing they can do. Their spoilt little lives finally have a purpose.
That is why appeasing them achieves nothing. There is a ritual to almost all forms of public gatherings, with a requirement for authority to be on hand to step in and close the loop. To let people know enough is enough. Offers boundaries and so on. A completely different mindset to those who loot. That is just people wanting something for nothing and we are all guilty of that. Natural human instinct. But these rich white folk deciding to go all rebellious? Be it BLM or XR, pure junkies, all of them. And made worse by letting them go on and on with it. Turns into a religious mania for many of them. White females are the most prone to this and almost exclusively from middle class backgrounds. They literally have zero stress in their lives and it drives them insane.
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