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 Eaglecoops  CR3 29 Jun 20 10.37am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
But this is a political echo chamber where opposing voices suffer endless abuse. Which is why the blind hypocrisy of complaining about the BBS is so amusing. I used to think it was worth it for exactly the reasons you suggest but recently it has gone markedly downhill. Some of the posters here are beyond any reason or hope. They are therefore best ignored. It is very regrettable but sometimes it seems necessary to accept that it is impossible to find working compromises and the only way forward is to go around people and their attitudes and not to try to work with them. There appears to be a groundswell of opinion against you on this board but you shouldn't be put off if that is what you genuinely believe. However, from my own point of view I would prefer if you gave more explanation as to your views rather than just being contrary. You can only stimulate debate if you adequately support your point of view. To quote from Monty Python's argument sketch. "It's not an argument, its just contradiction".
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| Matov 29 Jun 20 10.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am in full agreement.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 29 Jun 20 10.54am |
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Almost impossible to have an intelligent debate about politics on here or other football sites, Tories are as full of dogma as the Labour party. The standard of politicians is appalling and with their lies and poor behaviour is it any wonder they are not respected. Can you imagine how the press would react if a labour prime minister had a history of being a liar and presented himself as Worzel Gummidge. No reason at all why socialism cannot work along side capitalism ,NHS any one. Much of modern politics can be so childish as is the thought process of the many non thinkers who salivate the most. Even many labour politicians have little experience of life before entering parliament ,I am not having a pop at Eton or other such schools but that does not provide a background to equate with ordinary working people, nor does a good education equate to common sense. We do not argue about estate agents or used car salesmen but politicians are at the same level or lower.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jun 20 10.59am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
There appears to be a groundswell of opinion against you on this board but you shouldn't be put off if that is what you genuinely believe. However, from my own point of view I would prefer if you gave more explanation as to your views rather than just being contrary. You can only stimulate debate if you adequately support your point of view. To quote from Monty Python's argument sketch. "It's not an argument, its just contradiction". I am done with giving any more explanations. Over the years I have given many, which have often been ridiculed but that's of no consequence. What is has been the frequent misrepresentation. There is no debate here. Reasoned voices get drowned out and eventually, they all give up in disgust. Even the moderator, who was far from left-wing had enough of them. No, this has become just a sounding board for attitudes which have no place in modern Britain. It has become like being in the middle of a "Britain First" or EDL mob, which is not somewhere I have any wish to be.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
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 Hrolf The Ganger 29 Jun 20 12.45pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
WW2. Which did you think? So your dad must have been old when he had you then?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Jun 20 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Funny isn't it? That's pretty much how I see this forum these days. I don't use the BBS by the way. I don't like the format and have used the HOL for Palace related info for years. It's only these threads which increasingly disturb me as some of the views being expressed here are way beyond the pale, yet the regular posters seem oblivious to that and do nothing to call out the worst offenders. If ever you lot wonder why people get upset by the attitudes of the right, go take a long hard look at yourselves for you represent all that is wrong with our country. Don't worry yourselves, I won't be coming back anytime soon, other than to dip in from time to time to see if things have improved. Right now they are getting worse and the moderation appears to have disappeared. Don't do it on my account. There is a world of difference between this site and the BBS and if you are claiming not to see it, then you are, in customary fashion, being totally disingenuous. There are no opinions expressed on here that are way beyond anything. They are just opinions. If you express one, then you are expected to defend it with reason. In your ideal little world, people with wrong think are silenced. Good luck with that.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Jun 20 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I don't actually know but I am resigned to a kangaroo court the blindfold and oblivion. What did I do? I just don't think Cummins did anything wrong. Saying that on the BBS is likely to send the clique into a frenzy of rabid teeth gnashing. This place is a paradise of reason, moderate thinking and harmony by comparison.
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| Mapletree Croydon 29 Jun 20 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
In my humble opinion,I would far rather be the son of a father who drove me to the other end of the country to keep me safe than the son of a reprobate involved in defacing monuments, hauling down statues in an act of wanton vandalism and BLM thuggery. Hmm. Interesting that you see that as a binary choice
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| Mapletree Croydon 29 Jun 20 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Saying that on the BBS is likely to send the clique into a frenzy of rabid teeth gnashing. This place is a paradise of reason, moderate thinking and harmony by comparison. If you say so.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Jun 20 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
But this is a political echo chamber where opposing voices suffer endless abuse. Which is why the blind hypocrisy of complaining about the BBS is so amusing. I used to think it was worth it for exactly the reasons you suggest but recently it has gone markedly downhill. Some of the posters here are beyond any reason or hope. They are therefore best ignored. It is very regrettable but sometimes it seems necessary to accept that it is impossible to find working compromises and the only way forward is to go around people and their attitudes and not to try to work with them. Such hypocrisy. We had a situation where I expressly asked you to stop replying to my posts so we could avoid each other and you outright refused multiple times. Yet, here you are writing this portraying yourself as a reasonable person wronged on this site. Your relationship to accuracy is about as consistent as your commitment to Hol retirements and pin dancing.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Mapletree Croydon 29 Jun 20 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed which is why it is a huge disappointment how Universities no platform speakers on a regular basis. A different issue really. Some speakers are just too pernicious. Would you really want old hook hand (Abu Hamza al-Masri) talking at your local Muslim primary school? He might just influence one person, but that influence could be catastrophic. This is something we should have learned from the Nazis, except nobody ever listens to Sociologists.
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| Mapletree Croydon 29 Jun 20 1.06pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Such hypocrisy. We had a situation where I expressly asked you to stop replying to my posts so we could avoid each other and you outright refused multiple times. Yet, here you are writing this portraying yourself as a reasonable person wronged on this site. Your relationship to accuracy is about as consistent as your commitment to Hol retirements and pin dancing. I doubt you will get an answer Stirling... Why are you addressing WE when you said you would not?
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