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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Jun 20 8.16am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it's clearly impossible to judge yesterday by the standards of today anyone who attempts to do is foolish.

That said deciding not to re-broadcast something because it might now cause offence is another matter unless there is a context which is explained. That's for the broadcasters to judge.

My Mum was an awful racist. But that was 60 years ago and if she was alive today I would have expected her to have learned and changed. She wasn't a bad person at all. She was kind and loving, but also ignorant in the context of what we know now.

Whilst most of us have managed to adjust our thinking and realised that whilst the mistakes of the past cannot be undone we can avoid making them again, there remains a hardcore element whose views seem much more akin to my Mum's in the 50s than mine today. Such a pity, especially when they are so clearly in denial of that.

Such people can be found here. Not all, by any means, but what is sad is that the decent people don't call out the racists. You know they exist. Challenge them.

This site has always been heavily overpopulated with people holding right-wing views, some of them extremely so, although they, of course, deny that. There have only ever been a handful of those who represent mainstream opinion and most of them have become tired of arguing with brick walls.

It has though gone markedly downhill in recent weeks. Some of the posts have appalled me, but no-one picks them up. Even the moderator seems to have given up on you all. Reflect on that for a moment.

So now that it is just an echo chamber of self-righteous hatred you won't be seeing much more of me. You carry on together and I will take comfort in knowing that you are a totally unrepresentative bunch of losers whose sole purpose seems to be to confirm each other's biases.

I might dip in from time to time for amusement.

A tragedy, but I feel certain that everyone will eventually come to terms with the loss, painful as it may be.

 


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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 20 Jun 20 8.20am Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

A tragedy, but I feel certain that everyone will eventually come to terms with the loss, painful as it may be.

Surprisingly, I think I may be over it already.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 20 8.52am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Being a right wing thinker doesnt make you racist.
Having a different opinion doesnt make you racist.
Not taking the knee doesnt make you racist.
Some black posters on here are right wing thinkers and I doubt they can be labelled racist. your last line of dipping in for amusement sort of belittles the whole subject. Maybe you are more like you mother than you actually think.

I’d like to see a brief list of opinions he’s been recently appalled by. While this site doesn’t do the fawning, compassionate bollox that doesn’t get anywhere worthwhile, it also doesn’t hate or want to oppress anybody and anybody that deserves a fair chance should get one, and in this country you get a better chance than most, if not all other countries. So come on then, let’s see a brief list of things he’s been appalled by.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 20 Jun 20 8.53am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it's clearly impossible to judge yesterday by the standards of today anyone who attempts to do is foolish.

That said deciding not to re-broadcast something because it might now cause offence is another matter unless there is a context which is explained. That's for the broadcasters to judge.

My Mum was an awful racist. But that was 60 years ago and if she was alive today I would have expected her to have learned and changed. She wasn't a bad person at all. She was kind and loving, but also ignorant in the context of what we know now.

Whilst most of us have managed to adjust our thinking and realised that whilst the mistakes of the past cannot be undone we can avoid making them again, there remains a hardcore element whose views seem much more akin to my Mum's in the 50s than mine today. Such a pity, especially when they are so clearly in denial of that.

Such people can be found here. Not all, by any means, but what is sad is that the decent people don't call out the racists. You know they exist. Challenge them.

This site has always been heavily overpopulated with people holding right-wing views, some of them extremely so, although they, of course, deny that. There have only ever been a handful of those who represent mainstream opinion and most of them have become tired of arguing with brick walls.

It has though gone markedly downhill in recent weeks. Some of the posts have appalled me, but no-one picks them up. Even the moderator seems to have given up on you all. Reflect on that for a moment.

So now that it is just an echo chamber of self-righteous hatred you won't be seeing much more of me. You carry on together and I will take comfort in knowing that you are a totally unrepresentative bunch of losers whose sole purpose seems to be to confirm each other's biases.

I might dip in from time to time for amusement.

This post actually proves why many people feel the way they do. The fact that you disagree with an opinion, or that the Daily Mail does agree with it doesn’t automatically make a person a rabid right wing zealot or indeed a loser; just someone who’s tired of being told they’re wrong all the time, tired of seeing their way of life constantly criticised and eroded and tired of the condescension of the self righteous, self appointed arbiters of What’s Acceptable.
Nevertheless it can’t be said that WE lacks the courage of his convictions and I wish him well.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 20 9.01am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

The head teacher is ethnically Indian for most BLM supporters, she is nowhere near black enough to have a valid opinion on race especially when it is in anyway critical

Yep, instead of using the knowledge and experience of someone who wants to and actually has made a huge impact to the futures of young black lives, she isn’t the right colour and you discard her proven experience and results and use who exactly.

Everything she says is far too sensible for today’s world so I expect her to be ignored and instead someone else without the credentials or experience to get nowhere with their changes. Probably excuse homework or something stupid.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 20 10.01am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

The head teacher is ethnically Indian for most BLM supporters, she is nowhere near black enough to have a valid opinion on race especially when it is in anyway critical

Katharine Birbslsingh says otherwise. Her curly Afro hair is a clue.

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‘So play around with my Wikipedia page, make me Indian with a couple of keyboard strokes, and suddenly not only have they wiped my mother out of existence, but my words don’t really matter any more. (For the record, my mother is black Jamaican and my father is Indian Guyanese.)’

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Jun 20 11.48am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

This post actually proves why many people feel the way they do. The fact that you disagree with an opinion, or that the Daily Mail does agree with it doesn’t automatically make a person a rabid right wing zealot or indeed a loser; just someone who’s tired of being told they’re wrong all the time, tired of seeing their way of life constantly criticised and eroded and tired of the condescension of the self righteous, self appointed arbiters of What’s Acceptable.
Nevertheless it can’t be said that WE lacks the courage of his convictions and I wish him well.

Thank you. I popped back to see what the reaction was. Yours was the only unpredictable one.

You, and a few of the others, were amongst those I had in mind when I referred to decent people who don't call out the racism. I completely understand that those who hold different views can do so with honour. There are though some views which cannot be held with honour by decent people.

being fiscally and socially conservative is perfectly acceptable. Being racist isn't. There are some here who are racist, although deeply in denial of that fact.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jun 20 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Katharine Birbslsingh says otherwise. Her curly Afro hair is a clue.

[Link]

‘So play around with my Wikipedia page, make me Indian with a couple of keyboard strokes, and suddenly not only have they wiped my mother out of existence, but my words don’t really matter any more. (For the record, my mother is black Jamaican and my father is Indian Guyanese.)’

They don't care.

It's all about power. They will say and lie and half truth about whatever they need to.

The majority of their base are 'feelings before facts' anyway and those with power are afraid to do nothing but bend to them.

And groups like BLM have been given massive, mind bending sums of money.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jun 2020 2.49pm)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 20 Jun 20 2.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Look deeper, those feckers get everywhere.

All over my family history with their diddle dee music they are.

To be sure to be sure!

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 20 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 20 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Katharine is going to be heard a lot more. I do recognise her, but many more will now hear her wise words:

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 20 Jun 20 3.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As it's clearly impossible to judge yesterday by the standards of today anyone who attempts to do is foolish.

That said deciding not to re-broadcast something because it might now cause offence is another matter unless there is a context which is explained. That's for the broadcasters to judge.

My Mum was an awful racist. But that was 60 years ago and if she was alive today I would have expected her to have learned and changed. She wasn't a bad person at all. She was kind and loving, but also ignorant in the context of what we know now.

Whilst most of us have managed to adjust our thinking and realised that whilst the mistakes of the past cannot be undone we can avoid making them again, there remains a hardcore element whose views seem much more akin to my Mum's in the 50s than mine today. Such a pity, especially when they are so clearly in denial of that.

Such people can be found here. Not all, by any means, but what is sad is that the decent people don't call out the racists. You know they exist. Challenge them.

This site has always been heavily overpopulated with people holding right-wing views, some of them extremely so, although they, of course, deny that. There have only ever been a handful of those who represent mainstream opinion and most of them have become tired of arguing with brick walls.

It has though gone markedly downhill in recent weeks. Some of the posts have appalled me, but no-one picks them up. Even the moderator seems to have given up on you all. Reflect on that for a moment.

So now that it is just an echo chamber of self-righteous hatred you won't be seeing much more of me. You carry on together and I will take comfort in knowing that you are a totally unrepresentative bunch of losers whose sole purpose seems to be to confirm each other's biases.

I might dip in from time to time for amusement.


Fair play wisbech, i"m suprised you held out so long, you have taken a lot of flack! Maybe come in and drop a few points, just so everyone can take them in, and only answer those you feel give a fair hearing, no need debating with lost souls, but make your point as people do read it, even if they don"t like it!

 

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