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sotac464 Berkshire 31 Aug 20 4.22pm
Originally posted by Petereagle Solanke came good in the last few games, and was someone we were interested in. Who knows, he might be on our long list? Dazza might know! Came good when other clubs/players were on holiday, where was he all season when they needed him most? Don't like him, not good enough, can't stand signing player's in the hope that they might be better playing for a new club, look at West Ham, prime example. My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018
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sotac464

Berkshire 31 Aug 20 4.22pm

Originally posted by Petereagle

Solanke came good in the last few games, and was someone we were interested in. Who knows, he might be on our long list? Dazza might know!

Came good when other clubs/players were on holiday, where was he all season when they needed him most?

Don't like him, not good enough, can't stand signing player's in the hope that they might be better playing for a new club, look at West Ham, prime example.

My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Aug 20 4.26pm
Originally posted by sotac464 Cost them there premier league status, circa £35 million for these 2. Howe really did have a poor record in the transfer market. Any club hiring him in the future, would need to make him head coach only, therefore devoiding him of having sole responsibility of transfers. Edited by sotac464 (31 Aug 2020 4.19pm) He did sign Ryan Fraser for £400K and it proved an excellent buy. Callum Wilson at £3 Mill has been another excellent buy. Matt Ritchie was signed for £400K and they sold him to Newcastle for £12 Mill. Goalkeeper Ramsdale was signed for £1 Mill but has recently been sold for £18.5 Mill. Ake was signed for £20 Mill and has been sold for £41 Mill. Mings cost Bournemouth £8 Mill but was sold to A.Villa for £20 Mill rising to £25 Mill. Mousset cost nearly £5.5 Mill but was sold for £10 Mill. Edited by Willo (31 Aug 2020 4.37pm)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Aug 20 4.26pm

Originally posted by sotac464

Cost them there premier league status, circa £35 million for these 2. Howe really did have a poor record in the transfer market. Any club hiring him in the future, would need to make him head coach only, therefore devoiding him of having sole responsibility of transfers.

Edited by sotac464 (31 Aug 2020 4.19pm)

He did sign Ryan Fraser for £400K and it proved an excellent buy.
Callum Wilson at £3 Mill has been another excellent buy.
Matt Ritchie was signed for £400K and they sold him to Newcastle for £12 Mill.
Goalkeeper Ramsdale was signed for £1 Mill but has recently been sold for £18.5 Mill.
Ake was signed for £20 Mill and has been sold for £41 Mill.
Mings cost Bournemouth £8 Mill but was sold to A.Villa for £20 Mill rising to £25 Mill.
Mousset cost nearly £5.5 Mill but was sold for £10 Mill.

Edited by Willo (31 Aug 2020 4.37pm)

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sotac464 Berkshire 31 Aug 20 4.32pm
Originally posted by Willo He did sign Ryan Fraser for £400K and it proved an excellent buy. Callum Wilson at £3 Mill has been another excellent buy. Goalkeeper Ramsdale was signed for £1 Mill but has recently been sold for £18.5 Mill. Ake was signed for £20 Mill and has been sold for £41 Mill. Mings cost Bournemouth £8 Mill but was sold to A.Villa for £20 Mill rising to £25 Mill. Mousset cost nearly £5.5 Mill but was sold for £10 Mill. Thanks for that Willo and I take your point, perhaps what I'm getting at is the big money signings, including these 2 and Lermar at £25 million and there are others, but I can't be bothered to research, have been a failure. If we are going on small signings as a success, then Freedman, has got to be one of the best? My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018
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sotac464

Berkshire 31 Aug 20 4.32pm

Originally posted by Willo

He did sign Ryan Fraser for £400K and it proved an excellent buy.
Callum Wilson at £3 Mill has been another excellent buy.
Goalkeeper Ramsdale was signed for £1 Mill but has recently been sold for £18.5 Mill.
Ake was signed for £20 Mill and has been sold for £41 Mill.
Mings cost Bournemouth £8 Mill but was sold to A.Villa for £20 Mill rising to £25 Mill.
Mousset cost nearly £5.5 Mill but was sold for £10 Mill.

Thanks for that Willo and I take your point, perhaps what I'm getting at is the big money signings, including these 2 and Lermar at £25 million and there are others, but I can't be bothered to research, have been a failure.

If we are going on small signings as a success, then Freedman, has got to be one of the best?

My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Aug 20 4.42pm
Originally posted by sotac464 Thanks for that Willo and I take your point, perhaps what I'm getting at is the big money signings, including these 2 and Lermar at £25 million and there are others, but I can't be bothered to research, have been a failure. If we are going on small signings as a success, then Freedman, has got to be one of the best? Freedman signed Joel Ward for £600K, Delaney on a free, Jedinak on a free,Bolasie for £350K, Murray on a free etc etc so good business done.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Aug 20 4.42pm

Originally posted by sotac464

If we are going on small signings as a success, then Freedman, has got to be one of the best?

Freedman signed Joel Ward for £600K, Delaney on a free, Jedinak on a free,Bolasie for £350K, Murray on a free etc etc so good business done.

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sotac464 Berkshire 31 Aug 20 5.26pm
Originally posted by Willo Freedman signed Joel Ward for £600K, Delaney on a free, Jedinak on a free,Bolasie for £350K, Murray on a free etc etc so good business done. Hence why he is sporting director of Crystal Palace. Trouble is signing players like this for a premiership club, is a lot more difficult. These players are not brought in where there sole objective is, to avoid relegation, they have something to aim towards in the championship, promotion. They also build a bond towards there team mates, in getting promotion and carry that on (Sheffield utd). So buying these sort of players is a big gamble, unless they are young and we are willing to take a gamble (eze). Vardy perfect example, came through the leagues, everything set up for him at Leicester on and off the field, could he do the same for a top 6 club? Who knows, and we never will do. Zaha I get the feeling, like it or lump it, will be the same, unless next season, he really performs, but I'm doubtful. My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018
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sotac464

Berkshire 31 Aug 20 5.26pm

Originally posted by Willo

Freedman signed Joel Ward for £600K, Delaney on a free, Jedinak on a free,Bolasie for £350K, Murray on a free etc etc so good business done.

Hence why he is sporting director of Crystal Palace. Trouble is signing players like this for a premiership club, is a lot more difficult.

These players are not brought in where there sole objective is, to avoid relegation, they have something to aim towards in the championship, promotion.

They also build a bond towards there team mates, in getting promotion and carry that on (Sheffield utd).

So buying these sort of players is a big gamble, unless they are young and we are willing to take a gamble (eze).

Vardy perfect example, came through the leagues, everything set up for him at Leicester on and off the field, could he do the same for a top 6 club?
Who knows, and we never will do.

Zaha I get the feeling, like it or lump it, will be the same, unless next season, he really performs, but I'm doubtful.

My equalibrium unbalanced me. Paul Draper Brighton 19/2/2018

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wonder Madrid 31 Aug 20 9.36pm
Originally posted by sotac464 Hence why he is sporting director of Crystal Palace. Trouble is signing players like this for a premiership club, is a lot more difficult. These players are not brought in where there sole objective is, to avoid relegation, they have something to aim towards in the championship, promotion. They also build a bond towards there team mates, in getting promotion and carry that on (Sheffield utd). So buying these sort of players is a big gamble, unless they are young and we are willing to take a gamble (eze). Vardy perfect example, came through the leagues, everything set up for him at Leicester on and off the field, could he do the same for a top 6 club? Who knows, and we never will do. Zaha I get the feeling, like it or lump it, will be the same, unless next season, he really performs, but I'm doubtful. Leicester finished top 6
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wonder

Madrid 31 Aug 20 9.36pm

Originally posted by sotac464

Hence why he is sporting director of Crystal Palace. Trouble is signing players like this for a premiership club, is a lot more difficult.

These players are not brought in where there sole objective is, to avoid relegation, they have something to aim towards in the championship, promotion.

They also build a bond towards there team mates, in getting promotion and carry that on (Sheffield utd).

So buying these sort of players is a big gamble, unless they are young and we are willing to take a gamble (eze).

Vardy perfect example, came through the leagues, everything set up for him at Leicester on and off the field, could he do the same for a top 6 club?
Who knows, and we never will do.

Zaha I get the feeling, like it or lump it, will be the same, unless next season, he really performs, but I'm doubtful.

Leicester finished top 6

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MonsterMunch Cambridge 01 Sep 20 9.02am
prob unpopular opinion but.. if we miss out on other targets such as Fraser or OS I wouldnt be massively upset with Ibe. The upside will be the lack if transfer fee and you would assume modest PL wage. It reminds me a little of Bolasie, hes not as tricky as Bolasie but has (maybe HAD, not sure) some talent.. If we pluck him from obscurity. He'd add competition on the right with Townsend and is far more direct than Andros. He could be another of those that havnet found a club that fits, I see him and us working. Edited by MonsterMunch (01 Sep 2020 9.04am)
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MonsterMunch

Cambridge 01 Sep 20 9.02am

prob unpopular opinion but.. if we miss out on other targets such as Fraser or OS I wouldnt be massively upset with Ibe. The upside will be the lack if transfer fee and you would assume modest PL wage. It reminds me a little of Bolasie, hes not as tricky as Bolasie but has (maybe HAD, not sure) some talent.. If we pluck him from obscurity. He'd add competition on the right with Townsend and is far more direct than Andros. He could be another of those that havnet found a club that fits, I see him and us working.

Edited by MonsterMunch (01 Sep 2020 9.04am)

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Badger11 Beckenham 22 Jan 21 10.09pm
Latest on Ibe he has only played one game for Derby I hope he gets better but glad we didn't sign him. [Link] One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 22 Jan 21 10.09pm

Latest on Ibe he has only played one game for Derby I hope he gets better but glad we didn't sign him.

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One more point

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 22 Jan 21 10.44pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Latest on Ibe he has only played one game for Derby I hope he gets better but glad we didn't sign him. [Link] Agree but wish him the best of luck Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 22 Jan 21 10.44pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Latest on Ibe he has only played one game for Derby I hope he gets better but glad we didn't sign him.

[Link]

Agree but wish him the best of luck

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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jeeagles 23 Jan 21 12.12am
Originally posted by Willo He did sign Ryan Fraser for £400K and it proved an excellent buy. Callum Wilson at £3 Mill has been another excellent buy. Matt Ritchie was signed for £400K and they sold him to Newcastle for £12 Mill. Goalkeeper Ramsdale was signed for £1 Mill but has recently been sold for £18.5 Mill. Ake was signed for £20 Mill and has been sold for £41 Mill. Mings cost Bournemouth £8 Mill but was sold to A.Villa for £20 Mill rising to £25 Mill. Mousset cost nearly £5.5 Mill but was sold for £10 Mill. Edited by Willo (31 Aug 2020 4.37pm) Worth bearing in mind. People normally only draw attention to the big money flops. In the last 8 years, I think we've only sold Gayle, Bolasie, Murray, Jedinak, Sorloth and AWB for a fee. We've raised about £100m. Probably a very low amount comparative to over clubs in our division.
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jeeagles

23 Jan 21 12.12am

Originally posted by Willo

Edited by Willo (31 Aug 2020 4.37pm)

Worth bearing in mind. People normally only draw attention to the big money flops.

In the last 8 years, I think we've only sold Gayle, Bolasie, Murray, Jedinak, Sorloth and AWB for a fee. We've raised about £100m.

Probably a very low amount comparative to over clubs in our division.

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Mojo87 23 Jan 21 2.09pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Latest on Ibe he has only played one game for Derby I hope he gets better but glad we didn't sign him. [Link] Yeah he needs to get himself right first and hopefully he can reignite the football afterwards. Good luck to him
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Mojo87

23 Jan 21 2.09pm