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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Sep 19 1.15pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

So you think unless you’re willing to keep a phone for 10 years or not buy a new games console you can’t have a view on climate change, or think that we should be doing more?

As you said, practice as you preach. As I say, when lifestyles or enjoyment are at stake, people would rather not. When they can put their rubbish in a different bin then they may or do do that.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 24 Sep 19 1.22pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by sickboy


After this I'm out.
30 kids per class in a one form entry aprox.
When i was at school i would say 75% of us walked to school.
I know this because we walked together all living local.
Nowdays and certainly when my kids were at school, not so long ago, we were in the minority walking to school. I know this to be true because i saw it with my own eyes and also spoke to the other parents.
Therefore the ratio has gone up .

Which is obviously a good reflective sample of two whole generations.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Sep 19 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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Edited by Rudi Hedman (24 Sep 2019 1.56pm)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Sep 19 1.32pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

If refusing to form opinions based on what I see at the gym or what Sandra at the local school tells me makes me obtuse, then so be it.

I’d suggest the obtuse ones are the ones who tie themselves in knots rather than accept that this generation does something better than they did.

I’m aware of hundreds, yes hundreds of cars trying to pick up kids at Riddlesdown school in sanderstead and Woodcote school in Coulsdon. The traffic isn’t a problem on the main roads at riddlesdown but it is at woodcote. These are comprehensive schools with teenagers, and the size of the schools hasn’t increased that much. Go back a couple of decades and you’d get a few dozen parents picking up their teenagers and you used to get kids mocked or embarrassed by this. I don’t necessarily blame the kids only but the parents also.

This is teenagers. Multiply the problem with primary schools where often and obviously parents live closer. Tbh I only expect a parent to drive to pick a child up if it’s at a private school because they can often travel a long way with difficulty getting their with bus or train changes.

Unbelievable you think there hasn’t been a huge increase in parents driving kids to and from school from 4 to 16. Do they do it when they’re in 6th form as well? How about university in Surrey as well?

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Sep 19 1.54pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Because that's where the UN conference is taking place. And I guess partly because Trump is a vocal opponent of climate change.

That said - she winds me up and undoubtedly is being feted by politicians from around the world to jump on a bandwagon - but the fact that she (or her backers if you prefer) have created a movement cannot be denied and if it helps in the short or long term, then all well and good.

I meant more as a target (in the USA) let her & her backers try this in Kolkatta or Beijing or Riyaddh.

 


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Alex1991 Flag Ashford 24 Sep 19 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

I meant more as a target (in the USA) let her & her backers try this in Kolkatta or Beijing or Riyaddh.

If the US wants to continue to be seen as a world leader, you have to take responsibility and lead by example. I'm sure it's an uncomfortable truth and doesn't fit the populist agenda of your leaders but these are the facts.

 


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orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 24 Sep 19 2.06pm Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I’m aware of hundreds, yes hundreds of cars trying to pick up kids at Riddlesdown school in sanderstead and Woodcote school in Coulsdon. The traffic isn’t a problem on the main roads at riddlesdown but it is at woodcote. These are comprehensive schools with teenagers, and the size of the schools hasn’t increased that much. Go back a couple of decades and you’d get a few dozen parents picking up their teenagers and you used to get kids mocked or embarrassed by this. I don’t necessarily blame the kids only but the parents also.

This is teenagers. Multiply the problem with primary schools where often and obviously parents live closer. Tbh I only expect a parent to drive to pick a child up if it’s at a private school because they can often travel a long way with difficulty getting their with bus or train changes.

Unbelievable you think there hasn’t been a huge increase in parents driving kids to and from school from 4 to 16. Do they do it when they’re in 6th form as well? How about university in Surrey as well?

You can look at this another way. Kids in London get free bus passes. Where I am we see them seemingly unable to walk anywhere, waiting 10 mins for a bus to take them a five minute walk down the road.

Back in the day I walked to school then for secondary had a 15 min walk to the Pond then a bus then a walk at the other end.

And these days there is no concept of an orderly queue, more a fight for the doors!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Sep 19 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Anyone can make vague generalisations - it’s not proof of anything.

I’m open to be convinced, but telling me ‘lots are now refusing lifts to school’ is just hot air, pun intended.

How are these 'vague' generalisations? I'd say it's a pretty accurate generationisation. Which climate change protesting youngsters refuse car travel or holidays or the use of their phones? Can you point to examples to refute it?

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2019 2.49pm)

 


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Matov Flag 24 Sep 19 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Out of interest does Sweden fine parents for taking their kids out of school during term time?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Sep 19 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Out of interest does Sweden fine parents for taking their kids out of school during term time?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 24 Sep 19 2.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

If the US wants to continue to be seen as a world leader, you have to take responsibility and lead by example. I'm sure it's an uncomfortable truth and doesn't fit the populist agenda of your leaders but these are the facts.

What?

The US is a world leader whether you or I agree with it. When the dollar gets a cold the world sniffs.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 24 Sep 19 3.00pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How are these 'vague' generalisations? I'd say it's a pretty accurate generationisation. Which climate change protesting youngsters refuse car travel or holidays or the use of their phones? Can you point to examples to refute it?

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2019 2.49pm)

Hilarious.

 

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