Sure, but what has lead him to the sort of mental state that he considers this an appropriate response? You have to look at his sources of information etc, which is where politicians come into it.

I think you’re conflating two points; you can’t tell me the only way Trump could reflect his base is to be as inflammatory as he is?

Again, so dramatic - you appear to have plenty of time to waste.

I have no interest in discussing further.

I don't see how it's conflating myself.

Trump was essentially stating that south Americans are more criminal and murderous than north Americans (Europeans).....something that is just factual statistically....it's not a comment on anyone individual.

He's been the first politician who had the balls to come out and say it....and it didn't harm his voting share with hispanics.....But today I see that he's started to speak the language of his opposition....He rightly needed to condemn such a terrible and immoral act but I think he choose the wrong language....language which can be used against him.

It will be interesting to see how that plays out with his base.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Aug 2019 10.22pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Sorry belatedly picking up on this. Perhaps it is because those who make the rules are not comfortable with the thought of any of their own being terrorists?

For those liars about replacement.....here is a 2013 demographic breakdown for the US.

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A nice little animation showing reality.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Whatever excuses people offer the plain fact is that if the guns didn't exist then they could not be used.

I fully realise the different culture that exists in the USA and the extreme difficulties that would have to be overcome to achieve any kind of significant change. It can only be done in small steps over a significant period.

The biggest problem is the NRA who have many politicians by the sphericals because they rely on their funding. You cannot therefore just "get rid of them". Changing the way interest groups can fund, and therefore influence, politicians has to become a priority. If the alleged connection of the IRA to Russia can be proven in Court then a dent can possibly be made in their power. I believe the evidence for this exists but whether there is the political will to pursue it is an open question.

Trump isn't really "pro-gun"! Trump is only ever pro-Trump. Everything he does is focused on remaining as POTUS. It supporting the NRA helps achieve that then he will do it. Whether it costs lives is immaterial.

The House Democrats have proposed many changes to improve gun laws, improving background checks and limiting the sale of automatic weapons. They know full well that these have zero chance of passing in the Senate, where the GOP dominate. It's like trying to impeach Trump. They know it won't happen but still need to get the subject out there, so it can be put in front of the people.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.