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 Stirlingsays  12 Apr 19 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
But aren’t your no doubt noble features and bearing contorted by the effort necessary to haul about the weapon that featured in the other rumour? Tis a burden I have to bear.....three broken toes have taught me the seriousness of careful handling.
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Teddy Eagle  12 Apr 19 7.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Tis a burden I have to bear.....three broken toes have taught me the seriousness of careful handling. How do these rumours get out there in the first place? Wikileaks again?
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| Stirlingsays 12 Apr 19 8.11pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How do these rumours get out there in the first place? Wikileaks again? I suspect those long photo lenses. They just can't leave a living 'Jake the Peg' in peace.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 13 Apr 19 12.13am |
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are the bookies taking odds on Assange's life-expectancy ?
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| ChrisGC Wantage 13 Apr 19 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I suppose I will have to wear a burka under your leadership. I am all for the Burka and think it's a disgrace to suggest it should be banned. How else can I get away with knocking one off whilst walking around Tesco?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 19 8.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And where did you happen to hear about this 'rumour'? It wasn't a left learning information source was it per chance? You know what....at least this rumour can quickly be found out to be valid or not.....that way we can ascertain which one of us listens and believes nonsense and which doesn't. Personally I don't rate your chances. The thread has moved on a lot since I was last able to read it and others have also make reference to what I have heard, which is actually very easy to find and comes from many sources both of the right and left. Mine is of the right, albeit one steadfastly opposed to Trump. It may well be that the charges in Sweden are just a smokescreen to route him to the USA and that the current charges there are themselves not what the American IC are really interested in. Assange and Wikileaks are thought to be working on behalf of Russia and their leaks intended to cause disruption and division. If true, which seems highly likely to me, then them getting their hands on him becomes very important. I guess we might though attempt to act as a surrogate by doing a deal with him to refuse extradition in exchange for information. That Farage visited Assange is an established fact. Why is unclear. The suggestion is though that as Farage is also known to be close to Trump and his closest associates that he was acting as a courier and transferring data on a flash drive. Assange/Wikileaks/Russia also assisted the Leave campaign because it was in Russia's interests to divide the EU and the UK. It's also interesting that Corbyn has jumped in to defend him and try to stop the extradition as Corbyn is himself suspected of closer ties to Russia than is healthy. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Apr 2019 9.05pm)
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| Stirlingsays 13 Apr 19 9.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The thread has moved on a lot since I was last able to read it and others have also make reference to what I have heard, which is actually very easy to find and comes from many sources both of the right and left. Mine is of the right, albeit one steadfastly opposed to Trump. It may well be that the charges in Sweden are just a smokescreen to route him to the USA and that the current charges there are themselves not what the American IC are really interested in. Assange and Wikileaks are thought to be working on behalf of Russia and their leaks intended to cause disruption and division. If true, which seems highly likely to me, then them getting their hands on him becomes very important. I guess we might though attempt to act as a surrogate by doing a deal with him to refuse extradition in exchange for information. That Farage visited Assange is an established fact. Why is unclear. The suggestion is though that as Farage is also known to be close to Trump and his closest associates that he was acting as a courier and transferring data on a flash drive. Assange/Wikileaks/Russia also assisted the Leave campaign because it was in Russia's interests to divide the EU and the UK. It's also interesting that Corbyn has jumped in to defend him and try to stop the extradition as Corbyn is himself suspected of closer ties to Russia than is healthy. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Apr 2019 9.05pm) Seek help Wisbech......You are suffering a serious case of believing the bullsh1ts. Joking aside, like I said, the good thing about this is that your theory will shortly be exposed either as true or as the wishful thinking I think it plainly is. That Russia leaked information to sites like Wikileaks is in little doubt.....but your 2+2 equals 5 stuff is pure conspiracy theory.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 19 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Seek help Wisbech......You are suffering a serious case of believing the bullsh1ts. Joking aside, like I said, the good thing about this is that your theory will shortly be exposed either as true or as the wishful thinking I think it plainly is. That Russia leaked information to sites like Wikileaks is in little doubt.....but your 2+2 equals 5 stuff is pure conspiracy theory. It's not my, or so far as I can see no-one else's either, theory at all. Much of it is based on known facts and just the result of people being able to add 2 to 2 and get 4. The confirmation seems to have come when a US Court made a mistake and published some information about some sealed charges that Assange faces. I am not so sure though that official verification will arrive anytime soon given the way that the wheels of justice turn. What is alleged is not just that Russia used Wikileaks but that they are effectively their controllers. Whether other organs of the Russian state fed information to them or that they, or people who thought they are a legitimate whistleblower, did the hacking and then they leaked it when requested to by Russia, is somewhat irrelevant. Given that Roger Stone already faces charges involving Wikileaks is though very relevant.
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| .TUX. 13 Apr 19 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not my, or so far as I can see no-one else's either, theory at all. Much of it is based on known facts and just the result of people being able to add 2 to 2 and get 4. The confirmation seems to have come when a US Court made a mistake and published some information about some sealed charges that Assange faces. I am not so sure though that official verification will arrive anytime soon given the way that the wheels of justice turn. What is alleged is not just that Russia used Wikileaks but that they are effectively their controllers. Whether other organs of the Russian state fed information to them or that they, or people who thought they are a legitimate whistleblower, did the hacking and then they leaked it when requested to by Russia, is somewhat irrelevant. Given that Roger Stone already faces charges involving Wikileaks is though very relevant. Why do you put so much trust in a state that continually robs you?
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| Stirlingsays 13 Apr 19 10.57pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's not my, or so far as I can see no-one else's either, theory at all. Much of it is based on known facts and just the result of people being able to add 2 to 2 and get 4. The confirmation seems to have come when a US Court made a mistake and published some information about some sealed charges that Assange faces. I am not so sure though that official verification will arrive anytime soon given the way that the wheels of justice turn. What is alleged is not just that Russia used Wikileaks but that they are effectively their controllers. Whether other organs of the Russian state fed information to them or that they, or people who thought they are a legitimate whistleblower, did the hacking and then they leaked it when requested to by Russia, is somewhat irrelevant. Given that Roger Stone already faces charges involving Wikileaks is though very relevant. Funny how someone who claims to be right wing is always backing far left conspiracy theories. Here's a well known left wing commentator who isn't just repeating far left conspiracies and instead is pouring scorn on the stuff you believe about Assange. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Apr 2019 10.57pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Apr 19 11.24pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Funny how someone who claims to be right wing is always backing far left conspiracy theories. Here's a well known left wing commentator who isn't just repeating far left conspiracies and instead is pouring scorn on the stuff you believe about Assange. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Apr 2019 10.57pm) That you think these are "far left conspiracy theories" tells me all I need to know. It's the left who are more likely to defend Assange and the right who are more likely to want to see him face justice. In fact though this issue crosses the political divide and unites all those who see people like Assange as a threat to democracy. I had never heard of Jimmy Dore, let alone watched his stuff, although I have come across Tucker Carlson before and failed to be impressed. To describe him as a "left wing commentator" is a big stretch. I looked up his credentials and he is described as:-"progressive, populist, leftist, anti-establishment and anti-war". Just the kind of guy who would want to defend Assange so hardly surprising when he does. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Apr 2019 11.26pm)
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| Stirlingsays 13 Apr 19 11.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That you think these are "far left conspiracy theories" tells me all I need to know. It's the left who are more likely to defend Assange and the right who are more likely to want to see him face justice. In fact though this issue crosses the political divide and unites all those who see people like Assange as a threat to democracy.
I would agree, however that there is a....desire to get Assange...that unites some....not all....elements on both the left and right. There are however ethical representatives of both sides and I just gave you two there. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I had never heard of Jimmy Dore, let alone watched his stuff, although I have come across Tucker Carlson before and failed to be impressed. To describe him as a "left wing commentator" is a big stretch. I looked up his credentials and he is described as:-"progressive, populist, leftist, anti-establishment and anti-war". Just the kind of guy who would want to defend Assange so hardly surprising when he does. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Apr 2019 11.26pm) I read this paragraph and once again it's hard to square your statements with reality....So you are saying 'Jimmy Dore' isn't a left wing commentator now? Anyway we will soon get to see if your 'Assange is a tool of Russia' conspiracy theory is right soon enough won't we because he'll be extradited. Like I said, I think you have just fallen for BS, similar to your 'collusion delusions'.
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