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DanH SW2 12 Dec 18 9.18am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ok, you will now be the second person I ask to explain why there is a hierarchy in abuse. Why is it more important to be concerned with racial abuse over say abuse of someone considered to be ugly for example? That happens in newspapers all the time....value judgements happen all the time and are part of life. Why should I consider this form more important than another? Are you seriously comparing racially abusing someone to calling someone ugly? My word.
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Stirlingsays 12 Dec 18 9.25am | |
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Stirlingsays 12 Dec 18 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Are you seriously comparing racially abusing someone to calling someone ugly? My word. Yes, explain why there is a hierarchy in your mind. Notice, how you use the word 'abuse' for one and not the other.
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Tawny Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.29am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Ok, you will now be the second person I ask to explain why there is a hierarchy in abuse. Why is it more important to be concerned with racial abuse over say abuse of someone considered to be ugly for example? That happens in newspapers all the time....value judgements happen all the time and are part of life. Why should I consider this form more important than another? Because of the weight it holds in society. Calling someone a wally is a bit different from going up to someone and telling them that their Mum is a c*** or that they look like a pedo. These are all just abuse and insults, but not all insults are identical because they each carry pieces of how we view ourselves as a society within them. You are simply looking for reasons why a man screaming "black c*unt" at a player a football match doesn't matter that much on account that you're a man perpetually on the run from the black boys on the council estate, viewing anyone different as someone who inherently deserves a lack of compassion because you yourself clearly feel that you didn't receive it. Ironically instead of appreciating the "minority experience" you had, you've just cowered into a majority "my kids, my country" stance which ironically is the same stance that those black kids had, a "might is right". Abused becomes abuser. Others aren't responsible for your own hangups and going down some kind of genetics route or arguing as to why you think "black c*unt" is no different from calling someone a tosspot is a reflection of your own burnt out values rather than what should or should not be acceptable at a game. Change the record. Edited by Tawny (12 Dec 2018 9.30am)
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 18 9.29am | |
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Originally posted by Tawny
It's no real surprise that one tone members like hrolf who permanently have a colour chart in one hand and those with an interest or hierarchy in racial genetic differences don't really think someone being called a black c*nt matters a great deal. It's clear from the clip that this is what he said and he was right to be banned from for life. This idea that racial abuse is somehow no different from calling someone a tosser is of course more mud minded tosh. Remarkable how you know me so well and yet only joined two days ago.
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Tawny Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.32am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Remarkable how you know me so well and yet only joined two days ago. Is that you Gussett? You can watch the video if you wish to and clearly see the words he's mouthing. That's what people tend to do if they want to talk about somehting from an ediucated standpoint. You clearly haven't bothered as to you this is an opportunity rather than a concern.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 18 9.34am | |
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Originally posted by Tawny
Because of the weight it holds in society. Calling someone a wally is a bit different from going up to someone and telling them that their Mum is a c*** or that they look like a pedo. These are all just abuse and insults, but not all insults are identical because they each carry pieces of how we view ourselves as a society within them. You are simply looking for reasons why a man screaming "black c*unt" at a player a football match doesn't matter that much on account that you're a man perpetually on the run from the black boys on the council estate, viewing anyone different as someone who inherently deserves a lack of compassion because you yourself clearly feel that you didn't receive it. Ironically instead of appreciating the "minority experience" you had, you've just cowered into a majority "my kids, my country" stance which ironically is the same stance that those black kids had, a "might is right". Abused becomes abuser. Not everyone is responsible for your own mental hangups and going down some kind of genetics route or arguing as to why you think "black c*unt" is no different from calling someone a tosspot is a reflection of your own burnt out values rather than what should or should not be acceptable at a game. Change the record. Edited by Tawny (12 Dec 2018 9.30am) Is anyone condoning racist behaviour? I don't think so.
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Mapletree Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.35am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Remarkable how you know me so well and yet only joined two days ago. You mean like they do with you on the BBS Judge?
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 18 9.37am | |
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Originally posted by Tawny
Is that you Gussett? You can watch the video if you wish to and clearly see the words he's mouthing. That's what people tend to do if they want to talk about somehting from an ediucated standpoint. You clearly haven't bothered as to you this is an opportunity rather than a concern. I'm not a lip reader but I will accept the evidence as presented.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Dec 18 9.39am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You mean like they do with you on the BBS Judge? I'm not inclined to respond to your posts now. You might have a snowflake meltdown. I know how sensitive you can get when it suits you.
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Tawny Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm not inclined to respond to your posts now. You might have a snowflake meltdown. I know how sensitive you can get when it suits you. But you will anyway.
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DanH SW2 12 Dec 18 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm not a lip reader but I will accept the evidence as presented. I'll try again. The debate is not about the abuse. The debate is about the media portrayal of Raheem Sterling, and black players in general. His statement has forced this debate on them, and us, and it's about time.
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