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Lyons550 Shirley 13 Aug 18 10.46am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Apparently Idris Elba is being considered for the next James Bond when Craig leaves. I have a couple of observations on this. Firstly currently Hollywood seems obsessed with no 'cultural appropriation' and only having people with the right ethnicity playing, what they deem the appropriate roles......Well, seeing as James Bond was written as a white bloke with Sottish and Swiss parents that files in the face of this. However, I regard the people who push that politics as t***s and I think this should be about meritocracy and purely about the acting ability and charisma. So on that score this guy is definitely someone who can do Bond. However, as we speak Idris Elba is 45 years old. This is already too old to be starting an actor on this road. Especially if Craig is doing the next movie. So personally, I think they should start him now for one or two movies at most......Craig is already too old himself and shouldn't be doing anymore. This whole thing though might just be a cheap publicity play by the producers to keep the Bond name out there.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Aug 18 11.03am | |
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I think that no actor can currently fill the boots of Craig such has been his success.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Aug 18 2.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think that no actor can currently fill the boots of Craig such has been his success. They won't be willing do that. It's one of the most successful movie franchises in the world.
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Stirlingsays 13 Aug 18 3.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
They seem obsessed with continuing with Craig...they are going into Roger Moore 'too old' terrority.....I'd have ditched him once he had that hissy fit over the last movie anyway.
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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 13 Aug 18 3.57pm | |
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Bond would have been white when the books were written as I doubt MI6 had any black agents back then but if you are setting the films in the 21st century I don't see a problem with him being black if the most appropriate actor is black. It would be odd to have a black Robin Hood or Sherlock Holmes if they are set in the 15th/19th century but if you are producing a 21st century version of either of these then the skin colour becomes irrelevant. We are talking about fiction after all.
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Stuk Top half 13 Aug 18 3.57pm | |
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Disney is getting grief now for casting Jack Whitehall as a gay character.
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Stuk Top half 13 Aug 18 4.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think we enter into a sense of the ridiculous when real people in history are played by people of different ethnicity. What is the point unless you simply don't have actors of the correct ethnicity? With fictional characters, they never existed, so it comes down to the credibility, authenticity and sometimes the expectation of an established character as written and intended. It is double standards when we have such an over the top reaction to White people playing non White characters when the reverse is somehow seen as progress. You heard of the musical Hamilton?
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Stirlingsays 13 Aug 18 4.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Disney is getting grief now for casting Jack Whitehall as a gay character. Jack Whitehall is straight????? Frigging hell.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Aug 18 4.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You heard of the musical Hamilton? Yep. What is the point of casting Black people as White people? More double standards that we have to rid ourselves of if we ever wish to attain true equality of opportunity.
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Stuk Top half 13 Aug 18 4.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yep. What is the point of casting Black people as White people? More double standards that we have to rid ourselves of if we ever wish to attain true equality of opportunity. Don't ask me, I haven't seen it, but it rakes in 3 million dollars per week in ticket sales. So all this "money will dictate" stuff indicates that between Hamilton and Black Panther, that money will indeed dictate but not in the way you thought.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Aug 18 4.42pm | |
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Originally posted by topcat
Bond would have been white when the books were written as I doubt MI6 had any black agents back then but if you are setting the films in the 21st century I don't see a problem with him being black if the most appropriate actor is black. It would be odd to have a black Robin Hood or Sherlock Holmes if they are set in the 15th/19th century but if you are producing a 21st century version of either of these then the skin colour becomes irrelevant. We are talking about fiction after all. I accept that Bond could be Black in a reboot if his backstory was rewritten. The question is, why would a predominantly White British or American audience want to change a White icon to a Black man?
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Aug 18 4.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Don't ask me, I haven't seen it, but it rakes in 3 million dollars per week in ticket sales. So all this "money will dictate" stuff indicates that between Hamilton and Black Panther, that money will indeed dictate but not in the way you thought. No, I think it depends if you are after a limited but loyal audience or the wider market. I don't say that only Black people will go and see these productions but it will limit the audience in a way that a mixed race cast wouldn't.
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