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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Aug 18 9.14am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Ecopalace

Always the option of offering a new contract after a year if he’s been exceptional and is enjoying playing for Palace.

And if he knew big clubs were getting very interested the contract offer would have to be quite creative.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 03 Aug 18 9.28am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by FairweatherEagle

Was amusing to see how sour they are, relax, I'm not getting all my opinions on Meyer from them. And why not quote Lyons instead, he supplied the link

Edited by FairweatherEagle (03 Aug 2018 8.05am)


Have no fear fairweather I'll take the hit for that! lol...the reason? it makes me smile that they profess not to care and then squabble amongst themselves with the camp that wants to hate regardless and those that are saying its a good deal...i'll get my popcorn and watch the meltdown.

 


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Beastie Flag 03 Aug 18 9.43am Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Why are you interested in what the NSC has to say about anything

Yeah, I nearly clicked on the link but I know the sort of rubbish they’ll be saying. Just let them get on with it. Silly tw*ts.

 

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topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 03 Aug 18 9.51am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550


Have no fear fairweather I'll take the hit for that! lol...the reason? it makes me smile that they profess not to care and then squabble amongst themselves with the camp that wants to hate regardless and those that are saying its a good deal...i'll get my popcorn and watch the meltdown.

I gave NSC a read. One thread has The Guardian being brilliant as their analysis of BHA has them finishing higher, another dismisses The Guardian reporting that Meyer is on £80k a week.

They have way, way more threads about Palace than we have about them. They also have lots of threads about Reading, Bournemouth and other teams they have a problem with (most teams in the league, it seems). Great fun reading.

The non football threads are the opposite of here. Whilst political talk on HoL has turned into far right talk, on their it is left wing talk.

 


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orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 03 Aug 18 9.59am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

This reminds me when back in the day we signed Matt Jansen from Carlisle.

A young player wanted by loads of clubs arriving with loads of promise.

But this is the situation x100.

Hopefully a brilliant signing and also hopefully not the signing which the board decides means they can flog Zaha. (Who it seems has a value which is actually dropping as in the press today Chelski reckon they are paying £30m!

 

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PJH Flag Colchester 03 Aug 18 10.11am Send a Private Message to PJH Add PJH as a friend

This looks an amazing signing if he turns out to be anywhere near as good as all the hype. Re the wages etc, £170k a week would be about right if all fees/bonuses/ etc are added up over 3 years, means about £26Mio in all (which is less than we've paid for tekkers !) most of which would be amortised over the 3 years so don't see why so many people seem to be getting worried about it. A 22 year old player with German caps for £26Mio ? Yes please. Also we've cleared a lot from our wage bill with Yohan, Sako and chungy going. I'm more worried about Wilf going personally, next Friday can't come soon enough.

 

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Omph Flag Liverpool 03 Aug 18 11.00am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

This reminds me when back in the day we signed Matt Jansen from Carlisle.

A young player wanted by loads of clubs arriving with loads of promise.

But this is the situation x100.

Hopefully a brilliant signing and also hopefully not the signing which the board decides means they can flog Zaha. (Who it seems has a value which is actually dropping as in the press today Chelski reckon they are paying £30m!

Jansen is a good call but this seems much more like Bojan to Stoke for me. That needn’t be a disaster as Bojan started very brightly before being crocked.

My gut feeling is that the way this works best for Palace is that he gives us a great season before being moved on quite quickly for a Southampton sized profit. The way he moved out of Schalke makes me a little uneasy and my fear is that this time next year we’re going to be in a want away situation.

Be great of course if he comes off and wants to stay but....

 

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TheGermanGuy Flag 03 Aug 18 6.36pm Send a Private Message to TheGermanGuy Add TheGermanGuy as a friend

Hi, as my username tells I'm German and a Schalke 04 supporter.

I' ll try to give you a brief overview about him as a player but also what in the end led to the unpleasant situation with Schalke.

First, I want to apologize for any mistakesin my english which could cause counfusion, but I'll try my best


To start: he has a great ball control. This and his fast movements/turns makes it easy to free himself under pressure. Furter, he has a good passing accuracy and creativity.
His weaknesses are a lack of pace, shooting strength and he tends to slow down the attacks by playing too few vertical passes.

Max Meyer is talented central midfielder, who was educated in the highly regarded Schalke youth academy. After he made his debut for Schalke at a very young age, he was considered to be the next superstar to be brought up by Schalke. He performed very good as an attacking mitfielder with great ball control, passing skills and creativity.
Back then we had Raffael (at Gladbach currently) on a loan who performed quite good as well, but the manager decided not to buy Raffael because he didn't want to block Meyers place in the starting XI/squad.
Like I said, Meyer did very good in the beginning and played along Farfan, Draxler, Huntelaar and Raul. However, he couldn't keep this level - what is quite normal for a player his age. He then was often benched as the several changing managers we had were all critizising his commitment in training.
One often had the impression, that he was offended by being benched instead of working even harder to make it back on the field.

That was until the beginning of last year, when Domenico Tedesco became Schalke manager.
Meyer started to show great effort in training and Tedesco rewarded that by playing him as a defensive midfielder. Meyer played that role very good and soon became a regular player.
During the winter break at the end of december, he said in an interview, that he is happy at Schalke and that a contract extension at Schalke ist definitely an option for him. At that time Schalke was in negotioations with Goretzka as well, media says that we offered him up to 10m euros per year.
Goretzka decided to go to Bayern but negotiations with Meyer were still going on.
The agent of Meyer told a newspaper, that two e-mails weren't enough to convince a schalke boy, although everyone knew that there already several talks with the general manager, the agent and meyer himself took place, but without any agreement yet.

Afterwards the general manager gave an interview, where he gave this quote by the agent of Meyer during the negotiations: "Christian [Heidel, general manager], first of all we have to make sure that we talk about the same player: I talk about the world class Max Meyer who would be a regular player in every champions league club in europe. If we talk about the same player, then you can make an offer." (sic!). The general manager of Schalke then made an offer for the "very good Bundesliga player", but ot for the world class player.
It became clear that Meyer wouldn't sign a new contract, but everyone at Schalke was fine with that without any hatred against Meyer.

Afterwards, the brother in law of Meyers agent was at a football talkshow saying that Meyer could easily earn 10m per year in the premier league and talking s*** about Schalke.
After the match against Hamburg about five weeks before the end of the season, Meyer told the manager that he can't motivate himself for Schalke anymore, that's why he was benched in the following games.
Then Meyer started to not even show up in training by stating he's injured. The Schalke staff asked him to do a MRT-Scan, what he refused. As a result of the injury, Meyer wans't in the squad for the following match. When Meyer was asked about the injury, he said that he wasn't injured although it is a fact that he didn't participate in training.
After that happened, Meyer gave an interview that he feels being bullied and that he didn't sign a new contract because he didn't want to play for Schalke anymore as long as Christian Heidel is general Manager. After that, he got suspended for the rest of the season.

Every football fan in Germany would agree that Meyer ist very talented but also an egoistic, narcisstic guy who suffers on overconfidence and with an agent who is basically an a**hole.

However, Meyer is a worth a try as a free signing, I personally wish him all the best at Palace.

If you have any further questions regarding the Bundesliga, Meyer or Schalke just let me know.


Now I have got a question:

-Is this article referred to as 'journalism'? And do you really believe the crap which it says?? Just asking because some people mentioned this article in here.
[Link]


Best regards

Edited by TheGermanGuy (03 Aug 2018 6.45pm)

 

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lindzay Flag 04 Aug 18 1.05am

The media pulls them all apart eventually......I hope this kid has that German swagger and goes on to shove it the faces of his critics. How we got him is beyond me and if he does excel I just hope Zaha is primed to have a great season and they inspire the team to qualify for Europe. I expect Palace to mow down the bottom ten....and more wins versus the top ten where we failed last season. We have a good team and its getting better.

Edited by lindzay (04 Aug 2018 1.17am)

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Aug 18 3.55am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by TheGermanGuy

Hi, as my username tells I'm German and a Schalke 04 supporter.

I' ll try to give you a brief overview about him as a player but also what in the end led to the unpleasant situation with Schalke.

First, I want to apologize for any mistakesin my english which could cause counfusion, but I'll try my best


To start: he has a great ball control. This and his fast movements/turns makes it easy to free himself under pressure. Furter, he has a good passing accuracy and creativity.
His weaknesses are a lack of pace, shooting strength and he tends to slow down the attacks by playing too few vertical passes.

Max Meyer is talented central midfielder, who was educated in the highly regarded Schalke youth academy. After he made his debut for Schalke at a very young age, he was considered to be the next superstar to be brought up by Schalke. He performed very good as an attacking mitfielder with great ball control, passing skills and creativity.
Back then we had Raffael (at Gladbach currently) on a loan who performed quite good as well, but the manager decided not to buy Raffael because he didn't want to block Meyers place in the starting XI/squad.
Like I said, Meyer did very good in the beginning and played along Farfan, Draxler, Huntelaar and Raul. However, he couldn't keep this level - what is quite normal for a player his age. He then was often benched as the several changing managers we had were all critizising his commitment in training.
One often had the impression, that he was offended by being benched instead of working even harder to make it back on the field.

That was until the beginning of last year, when Domenico Tedesco became Schalke manager.
Meyer started to show great effort in training and Tedesco rewarded that by playing him as a defensive midfielder. Meyer played that role very good and soon became a regular player.
During the winter break at the end of december, he said in an interview, that he is happy at Schalke and that a contract extension at Schalke ist definitely an option for him. At that time Schalke was in negotioations with Goretzka as well, media says that we offered him up to 10m euros per year.
Goretzka decided to go to Bayern but negotiations with Meyer were still going on.
The agent of Meyer told a newspaper, that two e-mails weren't enough to convince a schalke boy, although everyone knew that there already several talks with the general manager, the agent and meyer himself took place, but without any agreement yet.

Afterwards the general manager gave an interview, where he gave this quote by the agent of Meyer during the negotiations: "Christian [Heidel, general manager], first of all we have to make sure that we talk about the same player: I talk about the world class Max Meyer who would be a regular player in every champions league club in europe. If we talk about the same player, then you can make an offer." (sic!). The general manager of Schalke then made an offer for the "very good Bundesliga player", but ot for the world class player.
It became clear that Meyer wouldn't sign a new contract, but everyone at Schalke was fine with that without any hatred against Meyer.

Afterwards, the brother in law of Meyers agent was at a football talkshow saying that Meyer could easily earn 10m per year in the premier league and talking s*** about Schalke.
After the match against Hamburg about five weeks before the end of the season, Meyer told the manager that he can't motivate himself for Schalke anymore, that's why he was benched in the following games.
Then Meyer started to not even show up in training by stating he's injured. The Schalke staff asked him to do a MRT-Scan, what he refused. As a result of the injury, Meyer wans't in the squad for the following match. When Meyer was asked about the injury, he said that he wasn't injured although it is a fact that he didn't participate in training.
After that happened, Meyer gave an interview that he feels being bullied and that he didn't sign a new contract because he didn't want to play for Schalke anymore as long as Christian Heidel is general Manager. After that, he got suspended for the rest of the season.

Every football fan in Germany would agree that Meyer ist very talented but also an egoistic, narcisstic guy who suffers on overconfidence and with an agent who is basically an a**hole.

However, Meyer is a worth a try as a free signing, I personally wish him all the best at Palace.

If you have any further questions regarding the Bundesliga, Meyer or Schalke just let me know.


Now I have got a question:

-Is this article referred to as 'journalism'? And do you really believe the crap which it says?? Just asking because some people mentioned this article in here.
[Link]


Best regards

Edited by TheGermanGuy (03 Aug 2018 6.45pm)


Great post GG. Great insight for us all and also very impressed with your command of English. Thank you.

 

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pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 04 Aug 18 6.13am Send a Private Message to pstrutt Add pstrutt as a friend

Now I have got a question:

-Is this article referred to as 'journalism'? And do you really believe the crap which it says?? Just asking because some people mentioned this article in here.
[Link]


Best regards

Edited by TheGermanGuy (03 Aug 2018 6.45pm)

Thanks GG - a good appraisal without the usual vitriol that often comes with footballing opinions.

To answer your question about journalism, the UK has some of the best journalists in the world and there is a thread or two on the HOL discussing the worst of them also.

The link you presented was not journalism but a website. Everyone has access to the web and can create and write whatever they choose. Doesn’t mean the writers are either talented or trained / educated, but they have as much right to spout their opinions as any other. Concerning the topic I guess mistakes are made and Palace probably had a good chuckle with Meyer about that - truth is nobody really cares. What is typical is that many Palace fans feel as though our club is tainted by a general view of inferiority, a view we would like to shake. Remaining in the Premier League for many years and reaching the FA Cup Final well never quite relieve us of the tag Crystal “Fcuking” Palace - a club that you’re expecting to beat.

Meyer for us represents a move in the right direction. He is an ungrade for us and a potentially excellent signing should Roy hodgson get the best out of him. The media, though, are potentially keen to see Meyer fail and Palace fall apart rather than anything else and the article shows how we are often represented (in part).

Good media outlets and proper journalists evaluate the situation at a club by interviewing a Manager or a Player to get firsthand information and knowledge. Sportswitness or others like them rarely bother and they merely rehash twitter or others articles to enable the click bait merry-go-round. It’s part of the British media set up - many ignore it - many like to get riled up. I like to read posts like yours as you’re a fan with knowledge and opinions nformation.

Thanks for your post.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Aug 18 8.13am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by TheGermanGuy

Hi, as my username tells I'm German and a Schalke 04 supporter.

I' ll try to give you a brief overview about him as a player but also what in the end led to the unpleasant situation with Schalke.

First, I want to apologize for any mistakesin my english which could cause counfusion, but I'll try my best


To start: he has a great ball control. This and his fast movements/turns makes it easy to free himself under pressure. Furter, he has a good passing accuracy and creativity.
His weaknesses are a lack of pace, shooting strength and he tends to slow down the attacks by playing too few vertical passes.

Max Meyer is talented central midfielder, who was educated in the highly regarded Schalke youth academy. After he made his debut for Schalke at a very young age, he was considered to be the next superstar to be brought up by Schalke. He performed very good as an attacking mitfielder with great ball control, passing skills and creativity.
Back then we had Raffael (at Gladbach currently) on a loan who performed quite good as well, but the manager decided not to buy Raffael because he didn't want to block Meyers place in the starting XI/squad.
Like I said, Meyer did very good in the beginning and played along Farfan, Draxler, Huntelaar and Raul. However, he couldn't keep this level - what is quite normal for a player his age. He then was often benched as the several changing managers we had were all critizising his commitment in training.
One often had the impression, that he was offended by being benched instead of working even harder to make it back on the field.

That was until the beginning of last year, when Domenico Tedesco became Schalke manager.
Meyer started to show great effort in training and Tedesco rewarded that by playing him as a defensive midfielder. Meyer played that role very good and soon became a regular player.
During the winter break at the end of december, he said in an interview, that he is happy at Schalke and that a contract extension at Schalke ist definitely an option for him. At that time Schalke was in negotioations with Goretzka as well, media says that we offered him up to 10m euros per year.
Goretzka decided to go to Bayern but negotiations with Meyer were still going on.
The agent of Meyer told a newspaper, that two e-mails weren't enough to convince a schalke boy, although everyone knew that there already several talks with the general manager, the agent and meyer himself took place, but without any agreement yet.

Afterwards the general manager gave an interview, where he gave this quote by the agent of Meyer during the negotiations: "Christian [Heidel, general manager], first of all we have to make sure that we talk about the same player: I talk about the world class Max Meyer who would be a regular player in every champions league club in europe. If we talk about the same player, then you can make an offer." (sic!). The general manager of Schalke then made an offer for the "very good Bundesliga player", but ot for the world class player.
It became clear that Meyer wouldn't sign a new contract, but everyone at Schalke was fine with that without any hatred against Meyer.

Afterwards, the brother in law of Meyers agent was at a football talkshow saying that Meyer could easily earn 10m per year in the premier league and talking s*** about Schalke.
After the match against Hamburg about five weeks before the end of the season, Meyer told the manager that he can't motivate himself for Schalke anymore, that's why he was benched in the following games.
Then Meyer started to not even show up in training by stating he's injured. The Schalke staff asked him to do a MRT-Scan, what he refused. As a result of the injury, Meyer wans't in the squad for the following match. When Meyer was asked about the injury, he said that he wasn't injured although it is a fact that he didn't participate in training.
After that happened, Meyer gave an interview that he feels being bullied and that he didn't sign a new contract because he didn't want to play for Schalke anymore as long as Christian Heidel is general Manager. After that, he got suspended for the rest of the season.

Every football fan in Germany would agree that Meyer ist very talented but also an egoistic, narcisstic guy who suffers on overconfidence and with an agent who is basically an a**hole.

However, Meyer is a worth a try as a free signing, I personally wish him all the best at Palace.

If you have any further questions regarding the Bundesliga, Meyer or Schalke just let me know.


Now I have got a question:

-Is this article referred to as 'journalism'? And do you really believe the crap which it says?? Just asking because some people mentioned this article in here.
[Link]


Best regards

Edited by TheGermanGuy (03 Aug 2018 6.45pm)

Many thanks for this. It does seem that the problems with Schalke stemmed from the agent, hopefully now he has signed, the agent wont be stirring it.
Questions GG: do you think Meyer has the game for the Premier League and if he plays to his potential will he get back in the German team?
Good luck for the season, keep in touch and if you are ever keen to see Max in the famous red and blue I am sure a ticket could be sorted for you.

 

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