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mattteo 24 Apr 18 11.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Bekken
Nice mention of Knockaert. I really like his playing style too. Both fast and strong, left footed. Didn't have a great first season in the PL, I expected a little more, but I think he'll do more next year. Was a bit unlucky at times hitting the post.
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Omph Liverpool 20 May 18 10.09pm | |
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Origi Oh and a goalie of course I'm assuming RLC is out of reach though I suppose we could get him back on loan. Origi offers real pace up front and cover out wide too. He'd come at a price but I'd say his best years are ahead of him. It's the sort of purchase that Mike Ashley would approve of! Allen is class and is ideal as cover for/to rotate with both Mc and Yohan TFM? Well he hasn't torn up trees I know but he's another who's going to get better. It may even play into our hands that he hasn't featured much. I think United might sell. Amadou covers both DM and central defence. This one rather depends on how Roy sees Riedewald. I was excited when he signed but just haven't seen anything like enough of him. If that's too pricy then the option would be to take either TFM or Origi on loan. Edited by Omph (20 May 2018 10.13pm)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 May 18 11.11pm | |
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Some of the players I have seen mentioned across a few threads are just NOT within our reach.We are not shopping in such markets. There are players in the Championship or League One which could well make their way to our club.With the odd PL player on a permanent contract or on Loan.
Edited by Willo (20 May 2018 11.12pm)
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chateauferret 21 May 18 12.02am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Some of the players I have seen mentioned across a few threads are just NOT within our reach.We are not shopping in such markets. There are players in the Championship or League One which could well make their way to our club.With the odd PL player on a permanent contract or on Loan.
Edited by Willo (20 May 2018 11.12pm) Well let's see what we've done previously, will we? Remy from Chelsea (loan, unfortunately got injured) We also nearly had Wilshere on loan but he plumped for Bournemouth after meeting Pardew and deciding that he was a t***. Oh, and we had an Everton player about to sign for us when his agent started making stupid demands and was told to do one. And I almost forgot - Zaha from Manchester United. Your contention that we have no business negotiating transfers with the top clubs in England and in Europe is a load of bollocks. The assumption that such players will automatically set the turf on fire is also wrong. Edited by chateauferret (21 May 2018 12.25am)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 May 18 12.16am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Well let's see what we've done previously, will we? Remy from Chelsea (loan, unfortunately got injured) We also nearly had Wilshere on loan but he plumped for Bournemouth after meeting Pardew and deciding that he was a t***. Oh, and we had an Everton player about to sign for us when his agent started making stupid demands and was told to do one. And I almost forgot - Zaha from Manchester United. Your contention that we have no business negotiating transfers with the top clubs in England and in Europe is a load of bollocks. Edited by chateauferret (21 May 2018 12.07am) I never said we had "No business....." etc etc. I also mentioned about 'Loan' players and you have highlighted some in your list.Besides then was then and now is now and not all were signed in the same window.My comments relate to the current window.
Edited by Willo (21 May 2018 12.33am)
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chateauferret 21 May 18 12.29am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I never said we had "No business....." etc etc. I also mentioned about 'Loan' players and you have highlighted some in your list.Besides then was then and now is now and not all were signed inthe same window.My comments relate to the current window.
Edited by Willo (21 May 2018 12.21am) I'm not aware that our reach has magically reduced over the last couple of years. Why could we sign Benteke from Liverpool one season, Sakho from the same club the following season, and then not be allowed to talk to them about (say) Origi in the third season? If the player is interested in us, we want the player, and the money adds up, then we can do the deal. It doesn't matter whether it's with Glasgow Celtic or Stalybridge Celtic. FFS.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 May 18 12.37am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
I'm not aware that our reach has magically reduced over the last couple of years. Why could we sign Benteke from Liverpool one season, Sakho from the same club the following season, and then not be allowed to talk to them about (say) Origi in the third season? If the player is interested in us, we want the player, and the money adds up, then we can do the deal. It doesn't matter whether it's with Glasgow Celtic or Stalybridge Celtic. FFS. With respect I wasn't inferring this at all.Of course we have the ability to sign PL players and the players you have highlighted were signed in different windows. My comments are relating to the current window whilst also asserting that some of the players mentioned are out of our reach.
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chateauferret 21 May 18 12.38am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect I wasn't inferring this at all.Of course we have the ability to sign PL players and the players you have highlighted were signed in different windows. My comments are relating to the current window whilst also asserting that some of the players mentioned are out of our reach. So why is this window different from any other?
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matthau South Croydon 21 May 18 1.52am | |
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They are within our reach, many top players are. If the miraculous purchase of loftus happens too then other players will want to join us all the more in future
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Omph Liverpool 21 May 18 8.00am | |
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Broadly agree - I was suggesting Origi! I do wonder though whether the wage bill will be as significant this time around as the transfer outlay. I wouldn't mind keeping Benteke but 100K in wages is an awful lot to have sitting on your bench. He needs to start really. Were WBA not in the position that FFP on wages meant that they had very limited scope in the market? Think I read that somewhere and we are now really quite high up in the wages table. If we were to free that 100K up then that could perhaps cover the wages for 2 PL established players. Originally posted by chateauferret
I'm not aware that our reach has magically reduced over the last couple of years. Why could we sign Benteke from Liverpool one season, Sakho from the same club the following season, and then not be allowed to talk to them about (say) Origi in the third season? If the player is interested in us, we want the player, and the money adds up, then we can do the deal. It doesn't matter whether it's with Glasgow Celtic or Stalybridge Celtic. FFS.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 May 18 9.10am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
So why is this window different from any other? As I have already mentioned, some of the PL players listed were not signed in the same window and I don't expect a host of more high profile PL players to be signed this coming window if we hold on to our named players.I'm not advocating that we won't sign PL players, just dampening expectations regarding our overall transfer activity.I could be proved wrong of course if I haven't read the 'Smoke signals' correctly ! I have made my view patently clear and see no need to respond to any further questioning on this matter. Edited by Willo (21 May 2018 9.11am)
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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 21 May 18 9.20am | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Nice mention of Knockaert. I really like his playing style too. Both fast and strong, left footed. Didn't have a great first season in the PL, I expected a little more, but I think he'll do more next year. Was a bit unlucky at times hitting the post. Did Knockaert have a season in the Prem with Leicester or did they ship him out prior to that? Not for me. Goes missing too often. Plenty of better options.
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