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Lyons550 Shirley 09 Jan 18 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 18 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Completely agree but we need to do that through education...which will simply take time and generations to water down. Society is already far far more self aware (with regards to racism for example) and what you and I would have uttered as kids no more than 30years ago without thought we wouldn't now, but it will take time. The one observation i'd make is where should the line be drawn? The issue raised on this thread is about Race which affects millions of people...but we're seeing more and more 'individuals' taking offence for personal and isolated issues that simply affect them and a minuscule number of others, and then calling for society to change in order to accommodate their values/wishes. We have a lot of individuals speaking out on behalf of their 'race' and others speaking out for somebody elses 'race'. I suspect that they don't really care about monkeys but more about pushing their identity politics power trip.
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HeathMan Purley 09 Jan 18 11.33am | |
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No intention to ban public use of monkey. We all need to think within the environments in which we find ourselves. Sadly, there are people who will use our word choices at certain times for their own ends. We both know that word choice needs greater care in some environments than others.
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Lyons550 Shirley 09 Jan 18 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We have a lot of individuals speaking out on behalf of their 'race' and others speaking out for somebody elses 'race'. I suspect that they don't really care about monkeys but more about pushing their identity politics power trip.
This is why Oprah does my f'ing head in...it's all ME ME ME with her no matter how she dresses it up...yes she is a pilanthrapist...but dont for one minute think she's doing it out of the good of her heart...she's a manipulative power hungry individual who'll stop at nothing to get where she wants. I guess at least Trump is honest about his intentions.
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 18 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Well, you can't change what is in people's heads however juvenile it is.
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johnno42000 09 Jan 18 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So because of a few idiots you want to ban the monkey? What next? Bananas? David Attenborough? Sigourney Weaver? You don't ban the monkey you try your hardest to avoid giving the far right any chance of using the advert as a slur by not having the advert.
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Lyons550 Shirley 09 Jan 18 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Well, you can't change what is in people's heads however juvenile it is.
Having said that, and as a positive, less and less of us see 'colour' or 'sexuality' first when making friends and aquaintances...it's certainly a far fairer and accepting society that we live in now on those basis's then it was even 30years ago!
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 18 11.45am | |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
You don't ban the monkey you try your hardest to avoid giving the far right any chance of using the advert as a slur by not having the advert. You see I see it the opposite way. The far right would thrive on the perceived antagonism. If I were Black, which I'm not, I would wear the Monkey with pride and say fcuk you. I wouldn't let some brainless dickhead dictate my behaviour like if I wanted my kid to wear a particular item of clothing. Easy for me to say maybe.
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YT Oxford 09 Jan 18 11.57am | |
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There is a child modelling agency called ‘Cheeky Monkey Models’. They welcome children of all racial backgrounds. There is a Cheeky Monkeys out of school club in Chorley. Their promo website features a little black girl. Are both of these inappropriate? (There are many other examples).
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Lyons550 Shirley 09 Jan 18 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You see I see it the opposite way. The far right would thrive on the perceived antagonism. If I were Black, which I'm not, I would wear the Monkey with pride and say fcuk you. I wouldn't let some brainless dickhead dictate my behaviour like if I wanted my kid to wear a particular item of clothing. Easy for me to say maybe.
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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 09 Jan 18 1.19pm | |
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I find it interesting how offended the OP is about this whole subject and as such giving this story more coverage than it deserves. It IS offensive (to some), most likely a deliberate attempt to get press coverage. However, they've acknowledged their "mistake" and apologised. Nothing left to see here, move on. It isn't going to stop me from buying clothes from there.
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elgrande bedford 09 Jan 18 1.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
And before you challenge my bona fides on this, my wife used to model for clothing catalogues, so I know from her stories how these things go. The models are treated like props, rushed in / rushed out, and have no say or even clue about how those photos will be used ultimately. Once they're paid for allowing their image to be taken, that image is no longer theirs - it belongs to whoever paid them for it. Yes,but as a minor he would have had a parent/guardian with him.
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