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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 8.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Utter crap. As usual, you just select stuff to support your argument.
It was a Tory government that introduced restrictions on Commonwealth immigration in 1961. It was Labour's Jack Straw who ended the primary purpose rule as soon as they got in power, that then allowed migrants to bring family members here. Oh, and let's not forget, it was Blair's Labour government who allowed unrestricted immigration from eastern European countries.
No. Incorrect. The Tories signed us up to that before Blair. Labour just happened to be in power when it came to pass. It had to be implemented by 2011 at the very latest.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No. Incorrect. The Tories signed us up to that before Blair. Labour just happened to be in power when it came to pass. It had to be implemented by 2011 at the very latest. In 2004 Blair allowed immediate access to the UK to new EU member states. He had the option of delaying that access for seven years, he did not use that option.
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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 9.32pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
In 2004 Blair allowed immediate access to the UK to new EU member states. He had the option of delaying that access for seven years, he did not use that option. He didn't but then again he didn't sign us up to it in the first place. The Right-Wing Conservative Party did.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 9.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No. Incorrect. The Tories signed us up to that before Blair. Labour just happened to be in power when it came to pass. It had to be implemented by 2011 at the very latest. It was a Labour government decision to permit the unlimited immigration of eastern European migrants. Even Ed Milliband admitted as much and that it was a mistake. Only the Tories have put restrictions on immigration.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He didn't but then again he didn't sign us up to it in the first place. The Right-Wing Conservative Party did. Why are you implying that having uncontrolled immigration was a bad thing when you believe that immigration is an unmitigated blessing and that the NHS would collapse without it etc, etc, surely you want it even more it is such a great thing? Edited by hedgehog50 (13 Nov 2017 9.49pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Nov 17 9.49pm | |
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And there's an unpicked harvest going rotten in the fields.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.50pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
And there's an unpicked harvest going rotten in the fields. Oh no! What are we going to do! At least the wildlife will benefit.
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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 9.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It was a Labour government decision to permit the unlimited immigration of eastern European migrants. Even Ed Milliband admitted as much and that it was a mistake. Only the Tories have put restrictions on immigration. No. Incorrect again. The Tories signed the permission slip. Labour were obliged to enact it by 2011. Last years net migration stats - 248,000 in 2016 under a Tory Government. Total in 2009 under Labour 196,000.
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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 9.54pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Why are you implying that having uncontrolled immigration was a bad thing when you believe that immigration is an unmitigated blessing and that the NHS would collapse without it etc, etc, surely you want it even more it is such a great thing? Edited by hedgehog50 (13 Nov 2017 9.49pm) I am implying nothing. I am merely the messenger of facts.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No. Incorrect again. The Tories signed the permission slip. Labour were obliged to enact it by 2011. Last years net migration stats - 248,000 in 2016 under a Tory Government. Total in 2009 under Labour 196,000. But they enacted it in 2004. "Rub their noses in diversity". Again, why are you implying immigration is a bad thing when you think quite the opposite. Edited by hedgehog50 (13 Nov 2017 9.57pm)
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simlaboy coulsdon 13 Nov 17 9.55pm | |
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Worried by an unpicked harvest but not by exploited people who harvest it,
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hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 10.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I am implying nothing. I am merely the messenger of facts. Really? Perhaps we should just let your hypocrisy speak for itself.
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