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johnmcormick8 Brundish 29 Oct 17 12.45pm | |
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Fair assessment, however the boys loyalty surly has to be consider. Who knows in time he may equal the greats in skills & loyalty. Originally posted by Kermit8
When he performs to his high standard for a whole season and then again the following season only then can he be compared to Sansom and Wright our two most gifted players of the last 40 years. He's a sub in my all time Palace team.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Oct 17 12.53pm | |
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He's the most skilful player and flair player I can remember since Hilaire. As others have said he has had trouble with consistency and end-product but he genuinely seems to have improved on his weaknesses. I wonder if he could be a world great by his late twenties? (presumably not for us but at least not for Man U either). Edited by ASCPFC (29 Oct 2017 12.54pm)
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Booted Eagle Bristol 29 Oct 17 2.56pm | |
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Going to sit on the fence until his Palace career is over. One thing for sure the longer it continues the better for all of us.
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Croydonlad sydenham 29 Oct 17 3.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
When he performs to his high standard for a whole season and then again the following season only then can he be compared to Sansom and Wright our two most gifted players of the last 40 years. He's a sub in my all time Palace team.
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Casual Orpington 29 Oct 17 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
do you no think freedman as a very good technical player? for us, at those times he was very good. if you disagree please tell me why, dont just repeat my words back to me like a parrot. Jansen was better than freedman. IMO
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Plaistow Eagle 29 Oct 17 4.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Croydonlad
You beat me to it - the best 2 players ever to play for Palace - Kenny Sansom and Ian Wright, no if's, buts or why for's. My Dad would argue Johnny Byrne - but I'm sure only because he was his captain in the academy/junior side. So way before my time - older HOL'ers may have a view. Then you have IMO the likes of Jim Cannon, Billy Gilbert, Peter Nicholas, Nigel Martyn, Geoff Thomas, Vince Hilaire, Mark Bright, Nathaniel Clyne, Victor Moses etc.. One of personal favourites Jerry Murphy - such a sweet left peg....!! Think Wilf is getting close - but as others have said needs consistency and longevity - if he achieves that it would be hard to argue he wouldn't be in the top 3 after King Ken and Sir Ian. COYP
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thai-eagle chiang mai 29 Oct 17 4.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
You beat me to it - the best 2 players ever to play for Palace - Kenny Sansom and Ian Wright, no if's, buts or why for's. My Dad would argue Johnny Byrne - but I'm sure only because he was his captain in the academy/junior side. So way before my time - older HOL'ers may have a view. Then you have IMO the likes of Jim Cannon, Billy Gilbert, Peter Nicholas, Nigel Martyn, Geoff Thomas, Vince Hilaire, Mark Bright, Nathaniel Clyne, Victor Moses etc.. One of personal favourites Jerry Murphy - such a sweet left peg....!! Think Wilf is getting close - but as others have said needs consistency and longevity - if he achieves that it would be hard to argue he wouldn't be in the top 3 after King Ken and Sir Ian. COYP Agree with you on Irish Jerry Murphy, what a left footed midfielder that came a bit in the shadows of Peter Nicholas, Sansom, Hilaire and Gerry Francis. And Zaha? Of raw talent probably in top 2/3 and as it is said, he stays with us will be our all time no. 1...
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Jacey 29 Oct 17 5.40pm | |
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Wilf Zaha is a true superstar,and surely ranks as one of our best ever players,but has even more to do to replace my all-time favourite, the late great Johnny Byrne.
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michaelpearce grays 29 Oct 17 6.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
You beat me to it - the best 2 players ever to play for Palace - Kenny Sansom and Ian Wright, no if's, buts or why for's. My Dad would argue Johnny Byrne - but I'm sure only because he was his captain in the academy/junior side. So way before my time - older HOL'ers may have a view. Then you have IMO the likes of Jim Cannon, Billy Gilbert, Peter Nicholas, Nigel Martyn, Geoff Thomas, Vince Hilaire, Mark Bright, Nathaniel Clyne, Victor Moses etc.. One of personal favourites Jerry Murphy - such a sweet left peg....!! Think Wilf is getting close - but as others have said needs consistency and longevity - if he achieves that it would be hard to argue he wouldn't be in the top 3 after King Ken and Sir Ian. COYP think that says most about different times could the old guard play today and could the new guard play back then. for me the old guard played like men, you didnt see them crying with the simplest of touches the old didnt wear shin pads most of the time
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wilelliott88 Manchester 29 Oct 17 6.48pm | |
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In recent times I think the skill and flair side of his game is on par with Bolassie, however his defensive game and his end product have both significantly increased, he is undoubtedly our talisman and he is getting better each week, I just hope he stays!!
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PZ Eagle Penzance 29 Oct 17 6.55pm | |
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Johnny Byrne for me as was absolute class. Don't forget he played for England even though we were in Div 3 at the time. He commanded the then world record transfer fee and one of the few England players to score a hat trick in an England shirt.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 29 Oct 17 6.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Casual
Jansen was better than freedman. IMO of course you are correct, jansen was something special, beautiful 1st touch, he was made extra special by the fact he chose us over united. f***ed off to swallow up jack walkers millions after only 25...shame
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