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DanH SW2 12 Oct 17 8.12pm
Some textbook predictable replies on here, lads.
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SW2 12 Oct 17 8.12pm

Some textbook predictable replies on here, lads.

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 12 Oct 17 9.36pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Polanski's work is great and deserving of the standing ovation (the artist needs to be separated from their actions), This is a very interesting line. At what point does anyone be allowed to have their views and actions separated by their work? It seems to me that we are all very selective on this. For example, do I have to hate Donald Trump for his success as a real estate investor because he thought grabbing pussies 10 years ago was fine? Or that he is a Republican? The difference between myself and Hollywood is that I have never preached about having high moral standards. Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.05pm)
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Beckenham 12 Oct 17 9.36pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Polanski's work is great and deserving of the standing ovation (the artist needs to be separated from their actions),

This is a very interesting line. At what point does anyone be allowed to have their views and actions separated by their work? It seems to me that we are all very selective on this.

For example, do I have to hate Donald Trump for his success as a real estate investor because he thought grabbing pussies 10 years ago was fine? Or that he is a Republican?

The difference between myself and Hollywood is that I have never preached about having high moral standards.

Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.05pm)

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Stirlingsays 12 Oct 17 9.56pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle This is a very interesting line. At what point does anyone be allowed to have their views and actions separated by their work? It seems to me that we are all very selective on this. For example, do I have to hate admire Donald Trump for his success as a real estate investor because he thought grabbing pussies 10 years ago was fine? Or that he is a Republican? The difference between myself and Hollywood is that I have never preached about having high moral standards. Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 9.37pm) I've thought about this too. But at the end of the day....I kind of like 'Beat It' and 'Johnny B Good'. We can't airbrush people out of history and it's a very black and white notion that people are only good or only bad. The debate nowadays is very puritan and tyrannical and people are afraid of anything by association. Liking A does not make you A. I can agree with B on something without being assumed that I agree with B on everything. I dislike the motives of the people who have encouraged society to revert to this childish zealot like behaviour. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Oct 2017 9.58pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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12 Oct 17 9.56pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

This is a very interesting line. At what point does anyone be allowed to have their views and actions separated by their work? It seems to me that we are all very selective on this.

For example, do I have to hate admire Donald Trump for his success as a real estate investor because he thought grabbing pussies 10 years ago was fine? Or that he is a Republican?

The difference between myself and Hollywood is that I have never preached about having high moral standards.

Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 9.37pm)

I've thought about this too.

But at the end of the day....I kind of like 'Beat It' and 'Johnny B Good'.

We can't airbrush people out of history and it's a very black and white notion that people are only good or only bad.

The debate nowadays is very puritan and tyrannical and people are afraid of anything by association. Liking A does not make you A. I can agree with B on something without being assumed that I agree with B on everything.

I dislike the motives of the people who have encouraged society to revert to this childish zealot like behaviour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Oct 2017 9.58pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 12 Oct 17 10.11pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I've thought about this too. But at the end of the day....I kind of like 'Beat It' and 'Johnny B Good'. We can't airbrush people out of history and it's a very black and white notion that people are only good or only bad. The debate nowadays is very puritan and tyrannical and people are afraid of anything by association. Liking A does not make you A. I can agree with B on something without being assumed that I agree with B on everything. I dislike the motives of the people who have encouraged society to revert to this childish zealot like behaviour. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Oct 2017 9.58pm) I've always admired Trump as a real estate investor, yet the Totalitarian Left (eg Hollywood, the BBC, academia, Silicon Valley) tells everyone they should not in any way or form. They want to control people's speech and thoughts to suit their agenda. Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.41pm)
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Beckenham 12 Oct 17 10.11pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've thought about this too.

But at the end of the day....I kind of like 'Beat It' and 'Johnny B Good'.

We can't airbrush people out of history and it's a very black and white notion that people are only good or only bad.

I dislike the motives of the people who have encouraged society to revert to this childish zealot like behaviour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Oct 2017 9.58pm)

I've always admired Trump as a real estate investor, yet the Totalitarian Left (eg Hollywood, the BBC, academia, Silicon Valley) tells everyone they should not in any way or form. They want to control people's speech and thoughts to suit their agenda.

Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.41pm)

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Stirlingsays 13 Oct 17 7.35am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle I've always admired Trump as a real estate investor, yet the Totalitarian Left (eg Hollywood, the BBC, academia, Silicon Valley) tells everyone they should not in any way or form. They want to control people's speech and thoughts to suit their agenda. Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.41pm) He transformed the New York skyline after the democrats had ruined its economy and invited him and others in cheaply. He was a part of saving that economy yet most there don't even know the history of it. There are lots of issues with Trump, however, he's right about bias in the media....he just leaves out the fact that he lies too. But you hit upon something that annoys me far more than Trump and his childish behaviour. It's the faux, self righteous, smug, superiority complex that (Hollywood, the BBC, academia, Silicon Valley) push. Well, I don't accept republican politics and I don't accept progressive politics either....at least with the republicans I'm not being told how privileged and racist and Nazi I am. That lot can go do one. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Oct 2017 7.37am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Oct 17 7.35am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.41pm)

He transformed the New York skyline after the democrats had ruined its economy and invited him and others in cheaply. He was a part of saving that economy yet most there don't even know the history of it.

There are lots of issues with Trump, however, he's right about bias in the media....he just leaves out the fact that he lies too.

But you hit upon something that annoys me far more than Trump and his childish behaviour. It's the faux, self righteous, smug, superiority complex that (Hollywood, the BBC, academia, Silicon Valley) push.

Well, I don't accept republican politics and I don't accept progressive politics either....at least with the republicans I'm not being told how privileged and racist and Nazi I am. That lot can go do one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Oct 2017 7.37am)

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legaleagle 13 Oct 17 9.41am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly A flasher was interviewed by the Met police some 20 years ago. He reckoned he had a 20% success rate. (much more than me) How are you meant to get a sh@g. if you don't ask ? probably by asking politely rather than flashing?
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13 Oct 17 9.41am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

A flasher was interviewed by the Met police some 20 years ago.
He reckoned he had a 20% success rate. (much more than me)

How are you meant to get a sh@g. if you don't ask ?

probably by asking politely rather than flashing?

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legaleagle 13 Oct 17 9.44am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle I've always admired Trump as a real estate investor, yet the Totalitarian Left (eg Hollywood, the BBC, academia, Silicon Valley) tells everyone they should not in any way or form. They want to control people's speech and thoughts to suit their agenda. Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.41pm) "The totalitarian left"...the BBC.....blimey....if the BBC is the totalitarian left,Gary Borrowdale was England class...
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13 Oct 17 9.44am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Oct 2017 10.41pm)

"The totalitarian left"...the BBC.....blimey....if the BBC is the totalitarian left,Gary Borrowdale was England class...

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Stirlingsays 13 Oct 17 9.46am
Originally posted by legaleagle probably by asking politely rather than flashing? Cor, I bet you were a right sex magnet down in the night clubs. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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13 Oct 17 9.46am

Originally posted by legaleagle

probably by asking politely rather than flashing?

Cor, I bet you were a right sex magnet down in the night clubs.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Oct 17 10.12am
Originally posted by Ray in Houston The ones who are speaking out are the ones who were pressured by Weinstein to have sex with him against their wishes, physically blocked by Weinstein from leaving when they refused, had him pull out his junk in front of them, had him jack himself off while they were unable to leave, and were groped, mauled and kissed by Weinstein against their wishes. The ones who f*ed their way to the top aren't the ones speaking out. They're the ones shutting the f* up. You're raging at the wrong people here. Against there wishes ? Bullsh1t. f*** me and you've got the job is a bribe. It's a take it or leave it scenario. They took it. The ones were he forced himself on them is totally unacceptable, but he is denying that. whether thats him admitting the lesser of two evils, only time will tell. Is he an odious creep ? 100%, but are the ones that shagged there way to the top morally any better, that answer has to be no. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Oct 17 10.12am

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

The ones who are speaking out are the ones who were pressured by Weinstein to have sex with him against their wishes, physically blocked by Weinstein from leaving when they refused, had him pull out his junk in front of them, had him jack himself off while they were unable to leave, and were groped, mauled and kissed by Weinstein against their wishes.

The ones who f***ed their way to the top aren't the ones speaking out. They're the ones shutting the f*** up. You're raging at the wrong people here.

Against there wishes ? Bullsh1t. f*** me and you've got the job is a bribe. It's a take it or leave it scenario. They took it.

The ones were he forced himself on them is totally unacceptable, but he is denying that. whether thats him admitting the lesser of two evils, only time will tell.

Is he an odious creep ? 100%, but are the ones that shagged there way to the top morally any better, that answer has to be no.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Oct 17 10.15am
Originally posted by DanH Some textbook predictable replies on here, lads. This is a thread about sexual matters between grown up men and women. Your input is not valid here pansy. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Oct 17 10.15am

Originally posted by DanH

Some textbook predictable replies on here, lads.

This is a thread about sexual matters between grown up men and women.

Your input is not valid here pansy.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Oct 17 10.33am
Originally posted by dannyh Against there wishes ? Bullsh1t. f*** me and you've got the job is a bribe. It's a take it or leave it scenario. They took it. The ones were he forced himself on them is totally unacceptable, but he is denying that. whether thats him admitting the lesser of two evils, only time will tell. Is he an odious creep ? 100%, but are the ones that shagged there way to the top morally any better, that answer has to be no. That sounds like youre shifting the blame of being a sexual predator from Weinstein to the women. It's a sad state of affairs if it's considered a norm to get on.
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Shizzlehurst 13 Oct 17 10.33am

Originally posted by dannyh

Against there wishes ? Bullsh1t. f*** me and you've got the job is a bribe. It's a take it or leave it scenario. They took it.

The ones were he forced himself on them is totally unacceptable, but he is denying that. whether thats him admitting the lesser of two evils, only time will tell.

Is he an odious creep ? 100%, but are the ones that shagged there way to the top morally any better, that answer has to be no.

That sounds like youre shifting the blame of being a sexual predator from Weinstein to the women. It's a sad state of affairs if it's considered a norm to get on.

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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Oct 17 10.39am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I've thought about this too. But at the end of the day....I kind of like 'Beat It' and 'Johnny B Good'. We can't airbrush people out of history and it's a very black and white notion that people are only good or only bad. The debate nowadays is very puritan and tyrannical and people are afraid of anything by association. Liking A does not make you A. I can agree with B on something without being assumed that I agree with B on everything. I dislike the motives of the people who have encouraged society to revert to this childish zealot like behaviour. Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Oct 2017 9.58pm) No one is going to stop me listening to Gary Glitter.
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