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palace99 Flag New Mills 10 Oct 17 9.19am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Nonsense. He owned 25% of the company and was in it for the capital appreciation of his shareholding and not a monthly income.

Parish is already a multi millionaire, doesn't need the money and the lack of a salary increases the value of his equity stake so it makes economic sense to keep the money within the company whilst it was making losses rather than pay a huge chunk of it to the taxman

So Midlands it's in SP's interest not to take a salary, is it?

firstly the last 2 millionaires who bought Palace didn't fair too well so to assume SP bought Palace purely to make a profit is a little unfair. If we had gone down in the first season (2010/11), which was a strong possibility he would probably still be funding the club today.

He also had a 25% equity stake so by not taking a salary he was benefitting the out shareholders more than himself - a strange logic.

In our 1st 2 seasons in the prem we made healthy profits (£17m in 2013/14) so surely he would have started paying a salary to himself then using your argument.

Finally the club pay tax regardless - whether it's NI on wages or corporation tax on profit - HMRC gets their money every which way.

Clearly SP has made money on his Palace investment, but it was a high risk investment and he bought at a time when no one else wanted to buy the club.

For all his faults to accuse SP of money grabbing is OTT. I remember the Noades era, the 1st ever paid chairman, the club paying his kids school fees etc.

If SP stepped down we would get a paid employee on a much higher salary with no connection with the club i.e. a Woodward at Man U. Be careful what you wish for!!

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Oct 17 10.11am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

palace99. Your response is so ridiculous that I'm not going to waste my time on a line by line response

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 10 Oct 17 10.27am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

palace99. Your response is so ridiculous that I'm not going to waste my time on a line by line response


Very wise

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 10 Oct 17 10.52am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

palace99. Your response is so ridiculous that I'm not going to waste my time on a line by line response

AKA, he's done you with his post.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 10 Oct 17 10.53am

Originally posted by bexleydave


Very wise

You really do love him don't you.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Oct 17 11.16am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

So Midlands it's in SP's interest not to take a salary, is it?

firstly the last 2 millionaires who bought Palace didn't fair too well so to assume SP bought Palace purely to make a profit is a little unfair. If we had gone down in the first season (2010/11), which was a strong possibility he would probably still be funding the club today.

He also had a 25% equity stake so by not taking a salary he was benefitting the out shareholders more than himself - a strange logic.

In our 1st 2 seasons in the prem we made healthy profits (£17m in 2013/14) so surely he would have started paying a salary to himself then using your argument.

Finally the club pay tax regardless - whether it's NI on wages or corporation tax on profit - HMRC gets their money every which way.

Clearly SP has made money on his Palace investment, but it was a high risk investment and he bought at a time when no one else wanted to buy the club.

For all his faults to accuse SP of money grabbing is OTT. I remember the Noades era, the 1st ever paid chairman, the club paying his kids school fees etc.

If SP stepped down we would get a paid employee on a much higher salary with no connection with the club i.e. a Woodward at Man U. Be careful what you wish for!!

Well let me try.

It is common practice for business owners in the business infancy to not pay themselves a wage. It's poor short term thinking to pay yourself if its unneeded. Parish was late by a season in paying himself after making a profit. Maybe he thought we weren't going to survive, or had serious doubts. The time it took to sign Pulis leads me there.

Our £5 mil losses were to be covered by selling players, and were. It wasn't planned or forecasted to come out of their pockets for anything other than the short term until say Jonny Williams was sold, for the big fee he probably would've done performing well at that level.

I'm not sure Parish has been accused of personal 'money grabbing' by anyone. All he's done is paid himself for his hours that would many CEO's. As it's now US partners rather than people closer to him, why not?

He protected the club's vulnerable financial position of £5 mil losses with planned player sales and not adding to that with a £650k salary. Further, its later on he took more on alone and instead of paying a quarter of £650k to 4 multi millionaires it made sense to pay Parish the going rate when he was doing most and just conferring on certain matters.

The 'being careful what you wish for' depends on who it is. If you're saying the only suitable person on the planet is Steve Parish then you're right. He must run the club until he's 90.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Oct 2017 3.24pm)

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Oct 17 11.27am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

AKA, he's done you with his post.

Hardly as anyone with a minimal grasp of corporate finance could pick huge holes in it but the main reason why I couldn't be bothered as anyone that twists things around to the extent that he did isn't worth bothering with.

 

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DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 10 Oct 17 3.47pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

To compare the funfair of the PL to "corporate finance" is a little far fetched would you not think.....
Leaving "equity in the business" by not paying yourself. PML


Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Hardly as anyone with a minimal grasp of corporate finance could pick huge holes in it but the main reason why I couldn't be bothered as anyone that twists things around to the extent that he did isn't worth bothering with.


Edited by DutchEagleJohan (10 Oct 2017 3.51pm)

 

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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

To compare the funfair of the PL to "corporate finance" is a little far fetched would you not think.....
Leaving "equity in the business" by not paying yourself. PML

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (10 Oct 2017 3.48pm)

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 10 Oct 17 8.32pm

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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

To compare the funfair of the PL to "corporate finance" is a little far fetched would you not think.....
Leaving "equity in the business" by not paying yourself. PML

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (10 Oct 2017 3.51pm)

Sorry but I don't see your point.

When you have a business in the championship possibly making a loss, unless you manage to sell players to the value of £5mil per season, why would you add more to that 'loss' by drawing a salary? You're effectively hamstringing yourself.

I can see why in the end Parish ended up paying himself after getting through those losing years unless £5 mil of players were sold. I'm quite a critic of his, as you know. If he sold Palace in 10 years time and either 2010 or now the yanks made a load out of their investment and his 'full time' chairman role, how would he or anyone feel they'd shared millions from his uncharged hours when they were being paid for similar elsewhere.

This doesn't mean I don't think he's been out of his depth football decision wise in the last 2 years as well as whenever there isn't an absolutely top class manager telling him how it needs to be or they're off.

 


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palacer Flag Crystal Palace 10 Oct 17 11.56pm Send a Private Message to palacer Add palacer as a friend

Parish went on Holradio and answered questions for over an hour. There is no need for a statement. How many other clubs chairmen or owners would do that?

 


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