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jamiemartin721  Reading 21 Aug 17 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No. In laws aren't blood. Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Aug 2017 1.23pm) They not yours, but they are probably your wives.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 21 Aug 17 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
All of us. I would rather we all died, than compromised what is at the very essence of our being and embraced tyranny against lawful citizens. But it won't happen, because people aren't so stupid as to think that what your talking about will make them any safer - You cannot prevent wrongdoing by becoming the instrument of wrong doing. No but Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists have, granted not on the same scale in the US as Islamists, however they have committed far more acts of terrorism in the US as acts than Islamists (and are also far less likely to claim responsibility for acts of terrorism). That's crazy. We compromise our principals all the time in war and when we are seriously threatened. To place ideology above safety is surely a definition of insanity.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Aug 17 7.38pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Nah, they don't they just think they should be treated in the same way as the white ones. That's exactly what their behaviour says they don't do. If we were talking about any non specific white community, no one would bat an eyelid if someone said it needed to be investigated or had a serious problem. Only when we have an identifiable group do people start with the identity politics. Irish, Black, Asian, Muslim, Jewish, Travellers blah blah. Us plain old white boring non descript people don't matter.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 21 Aug 17 7.40pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
All of us. I would rather we all died, than compromised what is at the very essence of our being and embraced tyranny against lawful citizens. But it won't happen, because people aren't so stupid as to think that what your talking about will make them any safer - You cannot prevent wrongdoing by becoming the instrument of wrong doing. No but Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists have, granted not on the same scale in the US as Islamists, however they have committed far more acts of terrorism in the US as acts than Islamists (and are also far less likely to claim responsibility for acts of terrorism). But extreme Islamists are Jew-hating Neo-Nazis par excellence.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Aug 17 4.26am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
But extreme Islamists are Jew-hating Neo-Nazis par excellence.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Aug 17 4.32am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That's exactly what their behaviour says they don't do. If we were talking about any non specific white community, no one would bat an eyelid if someone said it needed to be investigated or had a serious problem. Only when we have an identifiable group do people start with the identity politics. Irish, Black, Asian, Muslim, Jewish, Travellers blah blah. Us plain old white boring non descript people don't matter. Well then what about Catholics. Bit of history there with child rapists and being ignored by the cops and social services. Anyone sexually exploiting or raping kids should be seen as a criminal first, everything else seems moot. I think the issue warrants further investigation as there have been too many cases not to warrent concern. Same applies to the bbc and the catholic church.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Aug 17 4.35am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That's crazy. We compromise our principals all the time in war and when we are seriously threatened. To place ideology above safety is surely a definition of insanity. Twice. Both world wars isn't all the time. They were threats to the existence of the UK.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Aug 17 8.27am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its OK I don't like them either. Yet in your post you downplay the activities of the Islamic fascists while magnifying the activities of the non-Islamic fascists.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Aug 17 9.45am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well then what about Catholics. Bit of history there with child rapists and being ignored by the cops and social services. Anyone sexually exploiting or raping kids should be seen as a criminal first, everything else seems moot. I think the issue warrants further investigation as there have been too many cases not to warrent concern. Same applies to the bbc and the catholic church. There aren't gangs of Catholics systematically raping girls chosen by their colour, but the Catholic Church certainly has got away with abusing kids for far too long. Again, they are protected by their religion.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 22 Aug 17 9.47am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Twice. Both world wars isn't all the time. They were threats to the existence of the UK. There have been way more conflicts than just two.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Aug 17 9.53am |
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With Saville and care home kids over the decades and with Rochdale in particular the similarities are there. The victims were very vulnerable and the state/police/social workers did not bother at the time to do anything to investigate it properly to stop it because the 'wastrel' kids weren't deemed worthy.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Aug 17 10.01am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
They not yours, but they are probably your wives. Yeah, but it's unlikely that the blood relatives of his wife are going to matter to a suicidal terrorist. What normally matters to them is the people they grew up with and who they choose to fcuk. Besides it's irrelevant. If this policy were to be pursued then a decision at where the line is drawn has to be made and that would be it for me. It's less about justice and more about effectivity. You don't win a war by tying hands behind your back. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Aug 2017 10.04am)
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