It is bulls***, Michael. If it wasn't you would have defended your story more, rather than deflect on to me.

I have met enough bulls***ters in my life to recognise the type. What I think you do is mix things you were told at the time with stuff you have got off the internet to create an illusion to suit your agenda. You experienced nothing of the sort. Deal with it and accept that you are a dull individual looking to spice up your past to make yourself look like something you aren't.

Edited by matt_himself (14 Aug 2017 8.17pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

The NF scum were marching through shouting n*ggers, n*ggers, n*ggers out, out, out. The police did nothing. They were doing the Nazi salute, the police did nothing. They were lobbing coins left right and centre at people, the police did nothing.

We attacked the NF because their members had attacked our friends because of the colour of their skins. The police did nothing about that, they were worse than useless. The NF needed to be stopped from attacking my friends. If the authorities do nothing when do you say enough?

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

Nonsense, they were holding a provocative march, the left counter demonstration chose to escalate it into violence. The police were merely trying to keep law and order. The origins of the the NF march was that they took the opportunity to make political capital out of a mugging crime wave in the area where white people were robbed by black gangs. The NF were an
obnoxious, racist organisation, but mob rule was not and still is not the answer.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

No, because they are tolerant toward fascism, racism, sectarianism and the murdering of women and children as long as the perpetrators are not white.

Funny that.

Yes, because you are clearly not biased are you.

I was there as a 15 year old punk,with a group of 8 others . We came across a group of Teddy-Boys aged about 20 and one said 'We're on the same side,but only today!'as he lobbed a brick towards the Police-lined- NF marchers. The Police broke ranks and arrested him along with a couple of others.This happened by the back of Chiesmans and is depicted on the cover of Sham 69's song 'I don't wanna' [Link] . I got to know him a year-or-so-later and we remain pals.Some of the worst trouble was Lewisham High Street. Bricks ,bottles,road signs going one way then coming back again. Shop windows going through,lots of shouting all the way down to Ladywell Baths. Two of my mates(both 15 also) ended up in Lewisham Hospital,one when he saw a brick coming his way and trying to block it sustained a broken hand and one when he fell out of a tree by the swimming pools and turned his ankle. In the hospital was mayhem,people still fighting,mostly with the Police(as seemed to be the order of the day!). My pals got seen quickly as they were so young then we just headed back home to Catford walking the rubble and glass strewn streets with a few pockets of protesters hanging around. It was all very eerie. I believe that day was the beginning of the end of the NF. Those days were indeed violent times with Punks v Teds v Skins at gigs and on the streets, counter-marches by the left/right opposing each other,the GLC day featuring The Redskins,,football hooliganism,mad times indeed! Ollie's Dad,Ash.

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