Typical 'I have lost the argument' response from you.

It must be galling to see what you believe in turn into a bloodbath hellhole but that, my young friend, is socialism.

Keep deflecting, using the typical 'right wingers don't care' argument, or assuming that we don't we know our history or have never encountered Latin or other culture. What makes you the expert? Eaten some Lomo Saltado and had a bottle of Quilmes, whilst reading the Motorcycle Diaries, and now think you are some sort of Latin guru?

Your sort always react this way. Whom will you hold up next as shining lights of socialism? Those 'flourishing' economies of Bolivia and Uruguay, where the economy is shrinking? What about North Korea?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

It would be valid to start a thread on those countries as we all know they have problems.....but neither Russia or Turkey are fcuked. Without sanctions Russia wouldn't be doing that badly and Turkey...while being governed by an awful religious party isn't seeing inflation at three figure levels and people shooting dogs for food.

Capitalism does have issues and unfairness and it needs regulartion to mitigate them, but socialism is the way to hell paved with good intentions.....well initially...until the anti democratic elements get hold of it.....a socialist economy and democracy just don't seem to be able to co-exist....it always seems to end up with authoritarianism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2017 5.57am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

No system that attempts to enforce its existence against the will of the population can ever hope to deliver a humane society or one that is progressive and representative of its people. The Socialists of Venzeula have become as explicitly corrupt in their desire to maintain power, as those who proceeded Chavez in their desire to maintain their positions of wealth and power.

I agree with some of the aspects of Chavez's reform - The nationalisation of the oil industry, the focus on increasing education and delivering back into the general population rather than the profits of foreign investors. The unfair deal for oil that the people of Venzeula received was explicitly unfair - and was gear towards the benefits of a minority and foreign investors.

The outcome of this highlights something I strongly believe in that power where ever possible must be in the hands of the people, not government, and that attempts by government to undermine that should be regarded as treason against democracy.

The problem of the world is we trust too few people, with too much power, because of the small benefits or fears they give or engender in us.

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Watched that!!!!

f*** f*** f*** f***ing c***ttrttttts.

Where's the justice for these c***ssss.

If they were my people that would be war for me.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wow. That was hard to watch, but there is nothing like some harsh reality to cut through the political bulls***.

It's a good thing we aren't in the same room right now.

You talk absolute bull.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 2.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)