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Lyons550 Shirley 19 Jul 17 11.44am | |
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Originally posted by fledgling
Avoid for me. Never reaches a sustained level of fitness and, admittedly only going on what I've seen in the media over the years, he seems a bit c*nty. ...and yet he played 27 games for Bournemouth last season?
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fledgling Beckenham 19 Jul 17 12.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
...and yet he played 27 games for Bournemouth last season? So he had a better year last year, and that was only 22 starts, 5 as sub. Quick look at the stats shows that in 10 seasons as a professional footballer he's played 146 times. Says it all really.
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Loz83 Crawley 19 Jul 17 1.06pm | |
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Overrated and injury prone, when will we ever learn to avoid crocks!
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Crystal_Clear Belfast 19 Jul 17 1.28pm | |
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Been listening to Talksport all morning, and there was an interesting comment made by Paul Merson this morning about Wilshere. It's that, Arsenal, England and Bournemouth last year don't know how they should play Wilshere. They have him as a midfielder creating the play from the middle of park. What that does is expose him when his side doesn't have the ball, and he has to become a ball-winning midfielder. He goes into those challenges to win the ball back with too much energy and gets it wrong. He may win the ball at times, but it exposes his lack of tackling knowledge and there leaves his body open to injury (and he hasn't got the biggest of builds to start with). Basically, give him a free role around the park and let him do what he does best and create play, without too much responsibility for ball-winning. In a deeper laying role, he could often be the last midfielder before the defence. Take that responsibility away from him. I don't think he meant, don't get any not to tackle at all but just not in areas where it's the most important thing. Keeping him out of critical tackles areas could solve the issue of his fitness.
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sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 19 Jul 17 1.33pm | |
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A perennial sick note who turned us down once before. No thanks!
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Lyons550 Shirley 19 Jul 17 4.32pm | |
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Originally posted by fledgling
So he had a better year last year, and that was only 22 starts, 5 as sub. Quick look at the stats shows that in 10 seasons as a professional footballer he's played 146 times. Says it all really. It says only that he suffered serious injuries that kept him out for a long time...the newest stats are more relevant...clearly
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BelfastEagle 19 Jul 17 6.11pm | |
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Will never pass a medical.....next
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pssguy 20 Jul 17 1.42am | |
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Originally posted by Crystal_Clear
So we have our unused sub position covered now
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fledgling Beckenham 20 Jul 17 9.28am | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
It says only that he suffered serious injuries that kept him out for a long time...the newest stats are more relevant...clearly Respect your opinion but he's not for me. Think last year was the anomaly not the norm and even then he started less than 60% of their games. If he was really that good why would Wenger let him go? A home grown player in the 25 is an asset - especially in an international squad such as Arsenals. Surely replacement costs would outweigh the advantage of keeping him if he was really that good. Plus spitting at a pensioner? Not for me.
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black eagle. south croydon. 20 Jul 17 9.59am | |
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Originally posted by Loz83
Overrated and injury prone, when will we ever learn to avoid crocks! I wouldn't call him overrated it's just his injury record. Better than anything we have in our midfield.
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CrazyBadger Ware 20 Jul 17 10.27am | |
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Originally posted by fledgling
Respect your opinion but he's not for me. Think last year was the anomaly not the norm and even then he started less than 60% of their games. If he was really that good why would Wenger let him go? A home grown player in the 25 is an asset - especially in an international squad such as Arsenals. Surely replacement costs would outweigh the advantage of keeping him if he was really that good. Plus spitting at a pensioner? Not for me. Wenger let him go, reluctantly I believe. He has plenty enough quality for the arsenal team, but just not body that his tough tackling temperament requires.
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Lyons550 Shirley 20 Jul 17 11.52am | |
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Originally posted by fledgling
Respect your opinion but he's not for me. Think last year was the anomaly not the norm and even then he started less than 60% of their games. If he was really that good why would Wenger let him go? A home grown player in the 25 is an asset - especially in an international squad such as Arsenals. Surely replacement costs would outweigh the advantage of keeping him if he was really that good. Plus spitting at a pensioner? Not for me. Fair do's
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