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 Part Time James  10 May 17 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Because people think that Aid is free, which it isn't. I do get tired of explaining that aid is effectively tied to projects and undertakings. For example, the UK gave 15m in aid to Turkey as part of a clean water program, which results in Thames Water UK getting a number of contracts relating to water which was worth around 5bn to Thames Water UK over a 15 year contract. That's generally how aid works. We give defence aid to say Saudi Arabia, and then they place orders with British Defence firms for kit. Then it's not "aid" at all then. I don't go into Waitrose and say I want a rack of ribs in return for aid.
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| Part Time James 10 May 17 3.53pm |
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Also, does someone reconcile that we get a like for like return on our aid from Ethiopia, pakistan, India, Sudan, Afghanistan etc? You might tell me yes, just saying you've piqued my interest.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 May 17 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by jimruss
Bi-annual fitness tests for police officers. The ones who don't meet set targets get put on reduced duties and reduced pay until they meet the targets. Not all police officers need to be physically fit mind. Increasingly, the police require far less physical and much more intellectual specialist officers. Originally posted by jimruss
Chemical castration for rapists and paedophiles. Chemical castration requires that someone takes medication, on a daily basis. If they don't, the process reverses. Originally posted by jimruss
Bring back capital punishment. The UK can't do this, without massive legal reform following its undertakings under a number of rights act the UK signed up to. Originally posted by jimruss
Reduce foreign aid and redistribute to the NHS. Foreign Aid is the life blood of UK international trade. Around 75% of aid is better seen as bribes. We don't actually give money away, its all tied to specific programs and incentives, most of which result in UK preferences.
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| Part Time James 10 May 17 3.58pm |
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Jamie has an answer for everything. That's why he'd make a crap politician!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 May 17 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Also, does someone reconcile that we get a like for like return on our aid from Ethiopia, pakistan, India, Sudan, Afghanistan etc? You might tell me yes, just saying you've piqued my interest. Sudan, no. But given that Afghanistan, Ethiopia, pakistan and India have had huge military spending and equipment, and the UK's largest export is military defence, I'd be inclined to say yes. That new Afghan army was very expensive. They literally had nothing, not even the uniforms. These days, AKs are as likely to come from the UK as from their manufacturer.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 17 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Then it's not "aid" at all then. I don't go into Waitrose and say I want a rack of ribs in return for aid. But you can buy a 'Band-Aid' in Waitrose. Edited by Willo (10 May 2017 4.03pm)
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| Part Time James 10 May 17 4.05pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
But you can buy a 'Band-Aid' in Waitrose. Edited by Willo (10 May 2017 4.03pm) I'm not lining Bono's pockets any more than you very much.
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| jimruss Sidcup 10 May 17 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
It's my manifesto, I'll do what I fooking well want. the hell with you!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 May 17 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Then it's not "aid" at all then. I don't go into Waitrose and say I want a rack of ribs in return for aid. Its really 'incentives' and by incentives, I mean legally defined bribes to gain influence. Even when its not tied, its generally more about keeping a friendly leadership popular (i.e. ensuring they don't end up overthrown and say nationalising their oil industry).
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 May 17 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
Then it's not "aid" at all then. I don't go into Waitrose and say I want a rack of ribs in return for aid. Its more about slipping a tenner to the Waitrose manager so that he always sells you a rack of ribs at the price you want each time you go in, and that your brother gets the contract to replace the freezer units supporting his brothers electrical company.
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| Part Time James 10 May 17 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its really 'incentives' and by incentives, I mean legally defined bribes to gain influence. Even when its not tied, its generally more about keeping a friendly leadership popular (i.e. ensuring they don't end up overthrown and say nationalising their oil industry). At last, laymans terms. Anyway, my manifesto was just to ban bras. I'm sticking with it. I'll let someone else sort out the finances.
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NKEagle  Pyongyang 11 May 17 1.54am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Sudan, no. But given that Afghanistan, Ethiopia, pakistan and India have had huge military spending and equipment, and the UK's largest export is military defence, I'd be inclined to say yes. That new Afghan army was very expensive. They literally had nothing, not even the uniforms. These days, AKs are as likely to come from the UK as from their manufacturer. But they're using "aid" money to pay for it, so it's a zero sum game. Unless it's aid money they got from some other country, that is.
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