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Hudsoneagle 23 Jan 17 7.15pm
Originally posted by mattteo I don't know about 500, but yes, I agree that there are many. That's what I've tried to do, name them. I actually did. Based on what they previously did, only proven players, who are not that appreciated by their current managers (doesn't mean they're right) Isn't that what we all do, suggest? Honestly I have never been a fan of suggestions...because all too often it leads to the world of fantasy football. Someone might suggest Brady or Ben Davies and I'd think well that's a bit obvious when we are already linked. Then someone might suggest we sign Giroud or Rashford and I think to myself what planet are they living on? Of course everyone is free to post what they would like to post but I always feel it is safer to discuss the potential of players we are being linked with rather than random players with no link to us at all...because that list is 500 strong and we haven't been linked to any of them so why discuss them at all?
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Hudsoneagle

23 Jan 17 7.15pm

Originally posted by mattteo

I don't know about 500, but yes, I agree that there are many. That's what I've tried to do, name them. I actually did. Based on what they previously did, only proven players, who are not that appreciated by their current managers (doesn't mean they're right)
Isn't that what we all do, suggest?

Honestly I have never been a fan of suggestions...because all too often it leads to the world of fantasy football.

Someone might suggest Brady or Ben Davies and I'd think well that's a bit obvious when we are already linked. Then someone might suggest we sign Giroud or Rashford and I think to myself what planet are they living on?

Of course everyone is free to post what they would like to post but I always feel it is safer to discuss the potential of players we are being linked with rather than random players with no link to us at all...because that list is 500 strong and we haven't been linked to any of them so why discuss them at all?

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Icepick Tony Chester 23 Jan 17 7.19pm
Originally posted by mattteo No, what I mean is if you want to talk football, not "how do you know they're unhappy?" Then don't claim they're unhappy. It's really that simple. "They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway
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Chester 23 Jan 17 7.19pm

Originally posted by mattteo

No, what I mean is if you want to talk football, not "how do you know they're unhappy?"

Then don't claim they're unhappy. It's really that simple.

"They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway

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Painter Croydon 23 Jan 17 7.20pm
Originally posted by mattteo Ummmm.....really? My claim was that I knew more than 100 players who cost less than 10 million. Validated And that there are almost 200 players that could improve the Palace squad. Even if you don't know them, the world is a big place, so they exist. So again, validated claim Then he kept on asking me childish, like who are these guys and why did I pick them and why would they come Palace. I answered as best I could, giving my assumption that they're unhappy because they're not playing or that they're undervalued by their clubs (which, with a lot of research, you'd find out it's true for the players I named) Now, many times, including on page 3 of this thread, this guy kept telling me "You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m" QUOTED word for word. I never said I knew for a fact and he hasn't proved that because it's not possible to prove it. I believe that they're unhappy. It is my assumption. I never said I know FOR A FACT, and no one can. No one could have gone and talked to all this players and know for a fact. The entire discussion is just a waste of time and if you think I got owned because he quoted me saying something different than what he lied that I said...fine. I don't plan on wasting my time anymore in silly chats. If someone really knows football, tactics, players, I'm happy to engage in conversation. Otherwise, just stick to your level Reading your posts, you obviously have an in depth knowledge of European football. How have you acquired this knowledge? Why are you wasting you time arguing with people o here, I am sure you could do a better job, than Ian Moody did.
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Painter

Croydon 23 Jan 17 7.20pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Ummmm.....really?

My claim was that I knew more than 100 players who cost less than 10 million. Validated
And that there are almost 200 players that could improve the Palace squad. Even if you don't know them, the world is a big place, so they exist. So again, validated claim

Then he kept on asking me childish, like who are these guys and why did I pick them and why would they come Palace.

I answered as best I could, giving my assumption that they're unhappy because they're not playing or that they're undervalued by their clubs (which, with a lot of research, you'd find out it's true for the players I named)

Now, many times, including on page 3 of this thread, this guy kept telling me "You claimed you knew for a fact that over 200 players were unhappy and were available for under 10m" QUOTED word for word.
I never said I knew for a fact and he hasn't proved that because it's not possible to prove it. I believe that they're unhappy. It is my assumption. I never said I know FOR A FACT, and no one can. No one could have gone and talked to all this players and know for a fact.

The entire discussion is just a waste of time and if you think I got owned because he quoted me saying something different than what he lied that I said...fine. I don't plan on wasting my time anymore in silly chats.

If someone really knows football, tactics, players, I'm happy to engage in conversation.

Otherwise, just stick to your level

Reading your posts, you obviously have an in depth knowledge of European football. How have you acquired this knowledge?
Why are you wasting you time arguing with people o here, I am sure you could do a better job, than Ian Moody did.

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Shifty97 Croydon 23 Jan 17 8.23pm
Originally posted by mattteo No, what I mean is if you want to talk football, not "how do you know they're unhappy?" To be fair you created that list of players and then claimed that they were unhappy because they were not playing week in week out. This statement type of statement will usually generate a question like "how do you know they are unhappy" because you have just assumed that because they are not playing they are unhappy which is not always the case
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Croydon 23 Jan 17 8.23pm

Originally posted by mattteo

No, what I mean is if you want to talk football, not "how do you know they're unhappy?"

To be fair you created that list of players and then claimed that they were unhappy because they were not playing week in week out. This statement type of statement will usually generate a question like "how do you know they are unhappy" because you have just assumed that because they are not playing they are unhappy which is not always the case

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mattteo 23 Jan 17 9.22pm
Originally posted by Painter Reading your posts, you obviously have an in depth knowledge of European football. How have you acquired this knowledge? Why are you wasting you time arguing with people o here, I am sure you could do a better job, than Ian Moody did. I try not to argue. I have a job like everybody else, even coaching non-professional football. I don't know how savvy I am, but I do consider myself above most managers (like Alan Pardew or Sam Allardyce). If they're managers doesn't mean we should bow to them. They have been in football for a long time and are well connected in high places, that's why they get the jobs. They're millionaires. When you're a millionaire you develop friendships with journalists and pundits. A 10.000 dollars gift and you have a journalist friend for life. He writes an editorial praising your skills as a manager in the most read newspaper. And you get jobs in the PL. But when you see the blunders such managers make.... I've found very intelligent people on forums, more intelligent than myself. I learnt a lot and shared a lot. There are some who could very well do a better job than 99% of managers. But there are also people on forums who are are just disrespectful and don't know anything about football
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mattteo

23 Jan 17 9.22pm

Originally posted by Painter

I try not to argue. I have a job like everybody else, even coaching non-professional football.

I don't know how savvy I am, but I do consider myself above most managers (like Alan Pardew or Sam Allardyce). If they're managers doesn't mean we should bow to them. They have been in football for a long time and are well connected in high places, that's why they get the jobs. They're millionaires. When you're a millionaire you develop friendships with journalists and pundits. A 10.000 dollars gift and you have a journalist friend for life. He writes an editorial praising your skills as a manager in the most read newspaper. And you get jobs in the PL.
But when you see the blunders such managers make....

I've found very intelligent people on forums, more intelligent than myself. I learnt a lot and shared a lot. There are some who could very well do a better job than 99% of managers. But there are also people on forums who are are just disrespectful and don't know anything about football

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mattteo 23 Jan 17 9.23pm
Originally posted by Shifty97 To be fair you created that list of players and then claimed that they were unhappy because they were not playing week in week out. This statement type of statement will usually generate a question like "how do you know they are unhappy" because you have just assumed that because they are not playing they are unhappy which is not always the case It's pretty much always the case for players who USED to be starters. Only very young players are content with being substitutes
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mattteo

23 Jan 17 9.23pm

Originally posted by Shifty97

It's pretty much always the case for players who USED to be starters.
Only very young players are content with being substitutes

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Shifty97 Croydon 23 Jan 17 10.01pm
Originally posted by mattteo It's pretty much always the case for players who USED to be starters. Only very young players are content with being substitutes Not always, but anyway, the fact that the players you named were not all regular starters does not mean that they are defenitly unhappy and want to leave their club for £10 million or less or leave their club at all. You can only assume that which is the point people are making
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Croydon 23 Jan 17 10.01pm

Originally posted by mattteo

It's pretty much always the case for players who USED to be starters.
Only very young players are content with being substitutes

Not always, but anyway, the fact that the players you named were not all regular starters does not mean that they are defenitly unhappy and want to leave their club for £10 million or less or leave their club at all. You can only assume that which is the point people are making

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Bangell Oxford 23 Jan 17 10.33pm
Originally posted by mattteo I don't know how savvy I am, but I do consider myself above most managers (like Alan Pardew or Sam Allardyce). Glorious
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Oxford 23 Jan 17 10.33pm

Originally posted by mattteo
I don't know how savvy I am, but I do consider myself above most managers (like Alan Pardew or Sam Allardyce).

Glorious

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Icepick Tony Chester 23 Jan 17 11.33pm
Originally posted by Bangell Glorious Just when you thought he couldn't raise the bar any higher...this guy is top class. I bet he can suck himself off. "They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway
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Chester 23 Jan 17 11.33pm

Originally posted by Bangell

Glorious

Just when you thought he couldn't raise the bar any higher...this guy is top class. I bet he can suck himself off.

"They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway

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Bangell Oxford 23 Jan 17 11.41pm
Originally posted by Icepick Tony Just when you thought he couldn't raise the bar any higher...this guy is top class. I bet he can suck himself off. You mean he tells people that he can suck himself off, when in reality he just about managed to lick the tip after 2 weeks of daily stretching back at age 14
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Oxford 23 Jan 17 11.41pm

Originally posted by Icepick Tony

Just when you thought he couldn't raise the bar any higher...this guy is top class. I bet he can suck himself off.

You mean he tells people that he can suck himself off, when in reality he just about managed to lick the tip after 2 weeks of daily stretching back at age 14

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Icepick Tony Chester 23 Jan 17 11.52pm
Originally posted by Bangell You mean he tells people that he can suck himself off, when in reality he just about managed to lick the tip after 2 weeks of daily stretching back at age 14 "They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway
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Chester 23 Jan 17 11.52pm

Originally posted by Bangell

You mean he tells people that he can suck himself off, when in reality he just about managed to lick the tip after 2 weeks of daily stretching back at age 14

"They got his own song 'He's just too good for you', it's quite unbelievable but when you see it and he's facing up someone - I actually feel sorry for them, 'Cos he actually is" - Ian Holloway

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Geoff Thomas Tonbridge - 24 Jan 17 8.39am
Originally posted by spartakev2 Are you ever going to say anything positive. I thought the system worked really well for us today and we almost got a point against a very good everton side who put 4 past city last week. What was more important to me was that every player gave 10% today and were shattered at the end. Something I haven't seen for a long while. If we play like we did today against the 'lower ' reams I feel confident we will pick up points. Really? We created so little? Need to give it a go against the crap teams. Everton hardly broke a sweat and still could have won comfortably only for Hennessey finding that he had arms for once. Everton are a good team but over the past couple of seasons, we would have got stuck in to them and not let them settle! That's where we are falling down defeatist attitude and trying not to lose instead of trying to win. BFS would have been happy with a point which sums it up! Face the truth we are doomed unless the attitude changes. Don't give a s* about going down, but with a whimper is a joke. If and when we do let's weed out these lacklustre players and get in fighters. GT Eagles S* on Seagulls, Eagles S*** on Seagulls, La La La La,! La La La La!
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Tonbridge - 24 Jan 17 8.39am

Originally posted by spartakev2

Are you ever going to say anything positive. I thought the system worked really well for us today and we almost got a point against a very good everton side who put 4 past city last week. What was more important to me was that every player gave 10% today and were shattered at the end. Something I haven't seen for a long while. If we play like we did today against the 'lower ' reams I feel confident we will pick up points.

Really? We created so little? Need to give it a go against the crap teams.
Everton hardly broke a sweat and still could have won comfortably only for Hennessey finding that he had arms for once.
Everton are a good team but over the past couple of seasons, we would have got stuck in to them and not let them settle!
That's where we are falling down defeatist attitude and trying not to lose instead of trying to win.
BFS would have been happy with a point which sums it up!
Face the truth we are doomed unless the attitude changes. Don't give a s*** about going down, but with a whimper is a joke.
If and when we do let's weed out these lacklustre players and get in fighters.

Eagles S*** on Seagulls, Eagles S*** on Seagulls,
La La La La,!
La La La La!

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