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Hoof Hearted 11 Dec 16 11.56am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
With the utmost respect "Hoof Hearted" I have posted comments about the Benteke incident so really have nothing to add. It is generally accepted that Hull were fortunate to have been awarded a penalty - all I have been trying to do is to try and see it from the referee's perspective. Dann slides in, Snodgrass goes over - from the referee's angle it looks like a penalty.If he had seen it from another angle then he might have made a different decision.
Bad luck Trollo... I'm not getting suckered into a pointless debate with you (again).
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 16 12.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Bad luck Trollo... I'm not getting suckered into a pointless debate with you (again). To be honest, I'm not really interested debating with you when you refer to me as "Trollo".
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chateauferret 11 Dec 16 12.06pm | |
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Willo, it was perfectly clear to me at first sight and in real time that that was a dive. I did not require replays of any kind to wonder on what planet that was possibly a penalty. I didn't at that point realise it was Snodgrass and actually thought he was going to show a yellow card. I was flabberghasted when he pointed to the spot instead. So you know what you can do with your argument about "slo-mo replays" and all that. The other side of that is that Jones of course is supposed to have qualifications, decent faculties, years of experience and regular training. I didn't need any of those things to see the most obvious dive of the season for what it was, either. Since you conveniently didn't see the whole match and therefore feel able to dodge the question of whether Jones had a good game, I'll give you a hand. As I stated in the match thread, it was one of the worst referee performances I have seen in about forty years of watching football. Does that help?
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chateauferret 11 Dec 16 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
With the utmost respect "Hoof Hearted" I have posted comments about the Benteke incident so really have nothing to add. It is generally accepted that Hull were fortunate to have been awarded a penalty - all I have been trying to do is to try and see it from the referee's perspective. Dann slides in, Snodgrass goes over - from the referee's angle it looks like a penalty.If he had seen it from another angle then he might have made a different decision. The only thing you can see from the referee's perspective is about half a yard of clear space between Dann and Snodgrass.
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Inapickle South West 11 Dec 16 12.15pm | |
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Originally posted by kenners46
..exactly and the one for Spurs being the first goal allowed them the pleasure to go on and get more, really disgusting having one person being responsible for deciding the outcome of games that have many people worrying about their lively hood and affecting their behaviour/moods until the next time they play....all you need is one solitary person sitting on their hairy arse watching a screen with the ability to replay every incident in a split moment with an ear piece linked to the ref, take about 15 seconds I'd reckon, it is disgusting and today's ref needed help BIG time. Im hoping that was a joke with the amount they get paid per week, if they get relegated they just move on and earn another £30 grand per week at another club ..it won't stop people worrying, stress has nothing to do with the amount of money you can earn, having absolutely everything riding on one persons decision is nuts with our ability to be able to have every incident carefully replayed and correctly concluded within seconds.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 16 12.17pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
All very well having viewed the incident on TV. If Jones had seen it from a different angle IE running behind Snodgrass in the direction the player was heading he would have seen the distance between the 2 players.From his angle this wasn't possible and I suspect the vast majority seeing it on TV (Without replays from several angles) would have deemed it a penalty. Of course Hull were fortunate to get the penalty but as Pardew said he can understand why it was given.
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Inapickle South West 11 Dec 16 12.21pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Willo, it was perfectly clear to me at first sight and in real time that that was a dive. I did not require replays of any kind to wonder on what planet that was possibly a penalty. I didn't at that point realise it was Snodgrass and actually thought he was going to show a yellow card. I was flabberghasted when he pointed to the spot instead. So you know what you can do with your argument about "slo-mo replays" and all that. The other side of that is that Jones of course is supposed to have qualifications, decent faculties, years of experience and regular training. I didn't need any of those things to see the most obvious dive of the season for what it was, either. Since you conveniently didn't see the whole match and therefore feel able to dodge the question of whether Jones had a good game, I'll give you a hand. As I stated in the match thread, it was one of the worst referee performances I have seen in about forty years of watching football. Does that help? ..yes, this ref was clatterburg and moss all mungled together with magic mushrooms.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 16 12.21pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Willo, it was perfectly clear to me at first sight and in real time that that was a dive. I did not require replays of any kind to wonder on what planet that was possibly a penalty. I didn't at that point realise it was Snodgrass and actually thought he was going to show a yellow card. I was flabberghasted when he pointed to the spot instead. So you know what you can do with your argument about "slo-mo replays" and all that. The other side of that is that Jones of course is supposed to have qualifications, decent faculties, years of experience and regular training. I didn't need any of those things to see the most obvious dive of the season for what it was, either. Since you conveniently didn't see the whole match and therefore feel able to dodge the question of whether Jones had a good game, I'll give you a hand. As I stated in the match thread, it was one of the worst referee performances I have seen in about forty years of watching football. Does that help? Why use the word "Conveniently " ? I never saw the whole game so I have been honest in my answer. Regarding "Dodge the question", I cannot pass comment on the referee's overall performance if I haven't seen the game.I'm not one who judges a referee on isolated incidents.
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Inapickle South West 11 Dec 16 12.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
All very well having viewed the incident on TV. If Jones had seen it from a different angle IE running behind Snodgrass in the direction the player was heading he would have seen the distance between the 2 players.From his angle this wasn't possible and I suspect the vast majority seeing it on TV (Without replays from several angles) would have deemed it a penalty. Of course Hull were fortunate to get the penalty but as Pardew said he can understand why it was given. ..game should be replayed.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 16 12.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Inapickle
..yes, this ref was clatterburg and moss all mungled together with magic mushrooms. I was expecting Clattenburg to enter the debate.
Edited by Willo (11 Dec 2016 12.25pm)
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Hoof Hearted 11 Dec 16 12.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
To be honest, I'm not really interested debating with you when you refer to me as "Trollo". RESULT!!!
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Dec 16 12.43pm | |
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For me as well.
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