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Podyonkers Atlanta, Georgia 10 Dec 16 1.19am
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig So far, a few of those have who want him out have actually answered the question. Their response equates to low-to-mid 40s points wise and low-to-mid table finish. Then they'd admit they were wrong. Those who want him to stay aren't so far prepared to imagine they might be wrong or put that into words. Makes me think that they think supporting the club and supporting the manager is the same thing. I am one who wants Pardew IN. So let me be one to try and answer the question. I want him in because I feel we should try to wait it out a little longer. I think of how close Ferguson came to losing his job at United years ago. He turned it around at the last minute and went on to have a long and illustrious career. Now, I am definitely not saying Pardew is Sir Alex Ferguson but I would imagine their supporters were ready to see the back of him at the time. They stuck it out, and it worked out for them. There is a lot to be said for continuity in sports. If we can see it through perhaps we would have more stability in the end. Let's see if the supposed "plan" that AP and SP are working on has merit. I would be ready to drop Pards like a stone if my team ever again plays like it did against Swansea in my entire lifetime. That is by far the worst feeling I have ever had as a Palace fan. If we were to lose against Hull this week I would not like it, and that bad result might erode my patience a little bit. But it would not necessarily end things for me. However, if we were to ship five goals against one of the worst teams in the league... or if we looked completely disorganized... or if we look disinterested... that's when I would say enough is enough. Edited by Podyonkers (10 Dec 2016 1.23am) Stealing their women and eating their food since 1987.
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Atlanta, Georgia 10 Dec 16 1.19am

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

So far, a few of those have who want him out have actually answered the question. Their response equates to low-to-mid 40s points wise and low-to-mid table finish. Then they'd admit they were wrong.

Those who want him to stay aren't so far prepared to imagine they might be wrong or put that into words.

Makes me think that they think supporting the club and supporting the manager is the same thing.

I am one who wants Pardew IN. So let me be one to try and answer the question.

I want him in because I feel we should try to wait it out a little longer. I think of how close Ferguson came to losing his job at United years ago. He turned it around at the last minute and went on to have a long and illustrious career. Now, I am definitely not saying Pardew is Sir Alex Ferguson but I would imagine their supporters were ready to see the back of him at the time. They stuck it out, and it worked out for them. There is a lot to be said for continuity in sports. If we can see it through perhaps we would have more stability in the end. Let's see if the supposed "plan" that AP and SP are working on has merit.

I would be ready to drop Pards like a stone if my team ever again plays like it did against Swansea in my entire lifetime. That is by far the worst feeling I have ever had as a Palace fan. If we were to lose against Hull this week I would not like it, and that bad result might erode my patience a little bit. But it would not necessarily end things for me. However, if we were to ship five goals against one of the worst teams in the league... or if we looked completely disorganized... or if we look disinterested... that's when I would say enough is enough.

Edited by Podyonkers (10 Dec 2016 1.23am)

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Medway Eagle Whitstable Kent 10 Dec 16 7.06am
Originally posted by Podyonkers I am one who wants Pardew IN. So let me be one to try and answer the question. I want him in because I feel we should try to wait it out a little longer. I think of how close Ferguson came to losing his job at United years ago. He turned it around at the last minute and went on to have a long and illustrious career. Now, I am definitely not saying Pardew is Sir Alex Ferguson but I would imagine their supporters were ready to see the back of him at the time. They stuck it out, and it worked out for them. There is a lot to be said for continuity in sports. If we can see it through perhaps we would have more stability in the end. Let's see if the supposed "plan" that AP and SP are working on has merit. I would be ready to drop Pards like a stone if my team ever again plays like it did against Swansea in my entire lifetime. That is by far the worst feeling I have ever had as a Palace fan. If we were to lose against Hull this week I would not like it, and that bad result might erode my patience a little bit. But it would not necessarily end things for me. However, if we were to ship five goals against one of the worst teams in the league... or if we looked completely disorganized... or if we look disinterested... that's when I would say enough is enough. Edited by Podyonkers (10 Dec 2016 1.23am) The difference with the period Ferguson was under pressure was lack of winning titles. Not relegation dog fights like Palace. We would be happy with what Ferguson achieved in the early years. (1986/87) 11 place. (1987/88 runners up, (1988/89) 11 place. And we all know what happened in 1990, Thats as wel as many other cup runs, totally different scenarios
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Whitstable Kent 10 Dec 16 7.06am

Originally posted by Podyonkers

I am one who wants Pardew IN. So let me be one to try and answer the question.

I want him in because I feel we should try to wait it out a little longer. I think of how close Ferguson came to losing his job at United years ago. He turned it around at the last minute and went on to have a long and illustrious career. Now, I am definitely not saying Pardew is Sir Alex Ferguson but I would imagine their supporters were ready to see the back of him at the time. They stuck it out, and it worked out for them. There is a lot to be said for continuity in sports. If we can see it through perhaps we would have more stability in the end. Let's see if the supposed "plan" that AP and SP are working on has merit.

Edited by Podyonkers (10 Dec 2016 1.23am)

The difference with the period Ferguson was under pressure was lack of winning titles. Not relegation dog fights like Palace. We would be happy with what Ferguson achieved in the early years. (1986/87) 11 place. (1987/88 runners up, (1988/89) 11 place. And we all know what happened in 1990, Thats as wel as many other cup runs, totally different scenarios

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rikz Croydon 10 Dec 16 9.19am
Originally posted by Medway Eagle The difference with the period Ferguson was under pressure was lack of winning titles. Not relegation dog fights like Palace. We would be happy with what Ferguson achieved in the early years. (1986/87) 11 place. (1987/88 runners up, (1988/89) 11 place. And we all know what happened in 1990, Thats as wel as many other cup runs, totally different scenarios Of course we would the difference is were crystal palace not Manchester utd, comments like this show you exactly how unrealistic some fans are and why I ignore the constant moaners.
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Croydon 10 Dec 16 9.19am

Originally posted by Medway Eagle

Of course we would the difference is were crystal palace not Manchester utd, comments like this show you exactly how unrealistic some fans are and why I ignore the constant moaners.

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Midlands Eagle 10 Dec 16 9.25am
Originally posted by rikz Of course we would the difference is were crystal palace not Manchester utd, comments like this show you exactly how unrealistic some fans are and why I ignore the constant moaners. And comments like yours show that many posters don't really understand the point being made but feeling the need for a moan respond anyway
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Originally posted by rikz

Of course we would the difference is were crystal palace not Manchester utd, comments like this show you exactly how unrealistic some fans are and why I ignore the constant moaners.

And comments like yours show that many posters don't really understand the point being made but feeling the need for a moan respond anyway

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 10 Dec 16 10.39am
Originally posted by topcat Bottom three going into January and I will change my view and feel it is time to replace the manager. I can't really imagine a manager that I'd prefer to be in charge. One that would consider coming to Palace. agreed, one thing we currently have as a club is stability and iquite like that. dont forget parish wanted pardew before pulis but waited to get the manager he wanted, and hes going to stick by him ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by topcat

Bottom three going into January and I will change my view and feel it is time to replace the manager.

I can't really imagine a manager that I'd prefer to be in charge. One that would consider coming to Palace.

agreed, one thing we currently have as a club is stability and iquite like that.

dont forget parish wanted pardew before pulis but waited to get the manager he wanted, and hes going to stick by him

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Johng 10 Dec 16 10.52am
Originally posted by Podyonkers I am one who wants Pardew IN. So let me be one to try and answer the question. I want him in because I feel we should try to wait it out a little longer. I think of how close Ferguson came to losing his job at United years ago. He turned it around at the last minute and went on to have a long and illustrious career. Now, I am definitely not saying Pardew is Sir Alex Ferguson but I would imagine their supporters were ready to see the back of him at the time. They stuck it out, and it worked out for them. There is a lot to be said for continuity in sports. If we can see it through perhaps we would have more stability in the end. Let's see if the supposed "plan" that AP and SP are working on has merit. I would be ready to drop Pards like a stone if my team ever again plays like it did against Swansea in my entire lifetime. That is by far the worst feeling I have ever had as a Palace fan. If we were to lose against Hull this week I would not like it, and that bad result might erode my patience a little bit. But it would not necessarily end things for me. However, if we were to ship five goals against one of the worst teams in the league... or if we looked completely disorganized... or if we look disinterested... that's when I would say enough is enough. Edited by Podyonkers (10 Dec 2016 1.23am) Cripes, just how long have you supported Palace then? Our defending was sloppy and riddled with errors but we did play with heart and came back from 3-1 down to lead 4-3. I've seen countless games over the decades where the team just didn't give a toss. This lot care desperately. COYP!
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10 Dec 16 10.52am

Originally posted by Podyonkers

I am one who wants Pardew IN. So let me be one to try and answer the question.

I would be ready to drop Pards like a stone if my team ever again plays like it did against Swansea in my entire lifetime. That is by far the worst feeling I have ever had as a Palace fan. If we were to lose against Hull this week I would not like it, and that bad result might erode my patience a little bit. But it would not necessarily end things for me. However, if we were to ship five goals against one of the worst teams in the league... or if we looked completely disorganized... or if we look disinterested... that's when I would say enough is enough.

Edited by Podyonkers (10 Dec 2016 1.23am)

Cripes, just how long have you supported Palace then? Our defending was sloppy and riddled with errors but we did play with heart and came back from 3-1 down to lead 4-3. I've seen countless games over the decades where the team just didn't give a toss. This lot care desperately. COYP!

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premier fan BR4 10 Dec 16 11.27am
This is a great post and I hope people will be honest and fair with their answers. I was really supportive until the Swansea game and that turned me overnight. If I were the owner I would probably have considered a new manager but assuming Pardew had explained what went wrong and his plans for the next game I perhaps like parish would have waited to see what happened at Southampton. I am desperate for Pardew to do well and can see some real positives but defensively we've looked vulnerable. I'm backing him for now but need to see a decent run of results with the exception of the top 6 boys probably beating us. So I'm still a keen supporter and have not lost the faith completely so will not have been proved wrong if he does well but I am honest to say I did have a major wobble after Swansea.
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BR4 10 Dec 16 11.27am

This is a great post and I hope people will be honest and fair with their answers.

I was really supportive until the Swansea game and that turned me overnight. If I were the owner I would probably have considered a new manager but assuming Pardew had explained what went wrong and his plans for the next game I perhaps like parish would have waited to see what happened at Southampton.

I am desperate for Pardew to do well and can see some real positives but defensively we've looked vulnerable. I'm backing him for now but need to see a decent run of results with the exception of the top 6 boys probably beating us.

So I'm still a keen supporter and have not lost the faith completely so will not have been proved wrong if he does well but I am honest to say I did have a major wobble after Swansea.

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rikz Croydon 10 Dec 16 11.40am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle And comments like yours show that many posters don't really understand the point being made but feeling the need for a moan respond anyway Man utd finishing 11th is a far bigger failure than us finishing 17th in the top flight. If you look at our history and size of our club then finishing 17th is actually a massive over achievement. So no I don't get your point. Counting only top flight games, Pardew has the best win percentage than any other manager in our history and is only the 6th English manager to reach 300 games in the prem. Is he the greatest manager in the world, no, but his far better than most give him credit for on this board.
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Croydon 10 Dec 16 11.40am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

And comments like yours show that many posters don't really understand the point being made but feeling the need for a moan respond anyway

Man utd finishing 11th is a far bigger failure than us finishing 17th in the top flight. If you look at our history and size of our club then finishing 17th is actually a massive over achievement. So no I don't get your point.

Counting only top flight games, Pardew has the best win percentage than any other manager in our history and is only the 6th English manager to reach 300 games in the prem. Is he the greatest manager in the world, no, but his far better than most give him credit for on this board.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Dec 16 11.46am
Win today and a draw or better against Watford and I think he will be fine for the season "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 10 Dec 16 11.46am

Win today and a draw or better against Watford and I think he will be fine for the season

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NickinOX Sailing country. 10 Dec 16 12.57pm
Originally posted by Medway Eagle The difference with the period Ferguson was under pressure was lack of winning titles. Not relegation dog fights like Palace. We would be happy with what Ferguson achieved in the early years. (1986/87) 11 place. (1987/88 runners up, (1988/89) 11 place. And we all know what happened in 1990, Thats as wel as many other cup runs, totally different scenarios His two seasons before the cup win saw two bottom half finishes and much of the 1989-90 season down near the bottom. They put a run of good results together right at the end of the season. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 10 Dec 16 12.57pm

Originally posted by Medway Eagle

His two seasons before the cup win saw two bottom half finishes and much of the 1989-90 season down near the bottom. They put a run of good results together right at the end of the season.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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Podyonkers Atlanta, Georgia 10 Dec 16 2.50pm
Originally posted by Johng Cripes, just how long have you supported Palace then? Our defending was sloppy and riddled with errors but we did play with heart and came back from 3-1 down to lead 4-3. I've seen countless games over the decades where the team just didn't give a toss. This lot care desperately. COYP! Well, everyone has their own perspective, mate. To answer your question, I've stood in the freezing rain behind Budgie watching Jim Cannon crack people's legs all over the park. I think 51 years qualifies me. So yeah, I understand your point that bad results are a part of it all but this particular result was one that really drove me crazy. I was trying to answer the OP's question. Just my opinion. Stealing their women and eating their food since 1987.
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Atlanta, Georgia 10 Dec 16 2.50pm

Originally posted by Johng

Well, everyone has their own perspective, mate. To answer your question, I've stood in the freezing rain behind Budgie watching Jim Cannon crack people's legs all over the park. I think 51 years qualifies me.

So yeah, I understand your point that bad results are a part of it all but this particular result was one that really drove me crazy. I was trying to answer the OP's question. Just my opinion.

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Podyonkers Atlanta, Georgia 10 Dec 16 2.56pm
Originally posted by Medway Eagle The difference with the period Ferguson was under pressure was lack of winning titles. Not relegation dog fights like Palace. We would be happy with what Ferguson achieved in the early years. (1986/87) 11 place. (1987/88 runners up, (1988/89) 11 place. And we all know what happened in 1990, Thats as wel as many other cup runs, totally different scenarios Yeah but there was similar pressure on Fergie, that's all I was saying. Their fans were similarly frustrated, and he was headed for the chop. He was given a little more time to right the ship and it worked out. I'm hoping we enjoy the same result. Stealing their women and eating their food since 1987.
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Atlanta, Georgia 10 Dec 16 2.56pm

Originally posted by Medway Eagle

Yeah but there was similar pressure on Fergie, that's all I was saying. Their fans were similarly frustrated, and he was headed for the chop. He was given a little more time to right the ship and it worked out. I'm hoping we enjoy the same result.

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