Personally, I'm perfectly happy for her to apologise from me. Alas, those who were so desperate to bomb Syria are now finding out the cost of it. Those same people who want involved in the Middle East are upset about being involved in the Middle East. It all goes back to the 40s and getting involved in Israel. Get involved
when you must and anything else don't cry when it bites you in the ass.

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Quote cornwalls palace at 24 Oct 2012 9.37am

He was right!!!...and we killed him!!... poor Orpinton Eagles........

We didn't cause the issues in Syria. A popular uprising against a dictator, which was followed by an insurgent group filling the void of power in parts of the country, which was followed by, at best, a clumsy and uncoordinated approach from the international community.

No one is keen to bomb anywhere. Bombing has to viewed as part of the last sequence of action available to the international community when society breaks down in a country and threatens to spread to other countries.

If we had had balls, we would have sent in ground troops and help the Syrians rid their country of ISIS, then broker a peace between governmental forces and the rebels and oversee a rebuilding exercise in the country. Russia has to be involved and be mature in its approach, not strategic.

It is the ordinary people of Syria who have suffered worse but this is not 'our' doing and the following humitarian crisis and its piss poor handling by Merkel is not 'our' fault. Some real reflection and understanding needs to be used in this instance.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Seconded......If we had intervened heavily early on we may have avoided much of this miserly now.

The left and a fair proportion on the right ended up enabling the space for Russia to come in and practically win this for Assad.

The enabling of the enlargement of ISIS into a caliphate was a direct result of the withdraw of US troops and ally troops.....This was repeatedly called for by the left....But of course they take no responsibility for worsening an already bad situation by an alarming and massively costly degree.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The reality of this is that approx 29% of Britons in a recent poll said that we shouldnt accept a single more refugee (even children). So whether Lily Allen was apologising for this 29% or the other 71% we do not know. When Nigel Farage (perhaps surprisingly not one of the 29%) gave his famous speech post Brexit in Brussels that the other members hadnt done a days work in their lives i was one of those shaking my head like the MEP sitting behind him who had been transported to a Siberian gulag from lithuania as a child but went on to become a cardiac surgeon. However unpalatable i found this, NF was entitled to say what he wanted as surely we all believe in free spèech. But before we condemn Lily we are happy to believe and endorse possibly misleading information written in the Daily Mail or Express because the truth about 99% of refugees is that they are not migrants, they are not allowed to work, they receive £5 a day to live on, they do not jump queues for housing (most only get the most basic shelter), a large portion of the females have been sexually abused, most are living destitute and way below the poverty line and 99% look forward to the 'utopia' of one day being able to return home. But in the words of that other famous brexiteer David Davis 'if democracy doesnt allow for the people to change their minds, then it ceases to be a democracy'

Not only should we not be taking in any more of these alleged 'refugees', we need to round up and remove a significant percentage of the ones already here, especially the young, single, military aged males, of whom there appears be a disproportionately large number.

I, like 88% of HOL posters, don't understand your point 91% of the time. Maybe if you used 21% more grammatically effective paragraphs, or 32% more cogent argument, you would be 53% more effective in getting your message across.

Of course, that doesn't factor in the 78% of us who may think that you are a WUM, or the 47% who think you are simple and misguided or the 88% who fell asleep after reading 12% of your contributions.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02