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citizensmudge  midlands 19 Sep 16 11.03am |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I may be a bit anti AP but I would like to add that at no point in any of my posts have I called for him to be sacked. I said after the spurs game that the Bournemouth, Boro, stoke and Sunderland games were crucial and a return of anything less than 7 points from those 4 games should really result in us reviewing his position. Anyhow we have 7 points with a game to spare so hopefully now we can kick on and find some decent form over a longer period than just two games. Believe it or not I want him to succeed. I was merely concerned with a run, which in reality was pretty shocking. I used "you lot" in the broadest sense I wasn't accusing you of specifics despite the fact I remember reading some of your negative crap.There are only a handful of real idiots and they are not currently on here surprise surprise.Like I said before you have my respect for getting involved despite not being a fan of AP it shows you are at least a Palace supporter whatever your viewpoint.
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 Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Sep 16 11.11am |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I may be a bit anti AP but I would like to add that at no point in any of my posts have I called for him to be sacked. I said after the spurs game that the Bournemouth, Boro, stoke and Sunderland games were crucial and a return of anything less than 7 points from those 4 games should really result in us reviewing his position. Anyhow we have 7 points with a game to spare so hopefully now we can kick on and find some decent form over a longer period than just two games. Believe it or not I want him to succeed. I was merely concerned with a run, which in reality was pretty shocking. That's fair. I also didn't want him sacked. That's because it would mean we're doing really sh1t. The time to do it would've been the summer but Parish trusted him to buy big in small quantities rather than the likes of Mutch. What concerns me is not being able to grind out results and there's a few games coming up that may require that. During our sh1ttest run in history we ground out 1 result. A draw at Swansea away. The others we struggled or threw points down the toilet. Sunderland away, vs Liverpool's 10 men and in the lead being among the worst. Claims Pardew is suddenly amazing again and we're going to finish much higher than mid-table are plain ridiculous and as ridiculous as thoughts when we were 5th last season. We've got some tough matches coming up after Sunderland away and where we are then may reflect where we are a bit longer term. Possibly a bit below mid-table and. I am happy and realistic with that level.
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 19 Sep 16 11.31am |
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Originally posted by rikz
With our illustrious history competing at the top of the football pyramid and our huge fan Base can you blame them. Yes I can. Football takes place over a season. This is a brand new season and this is where the club should be judged. We had a fantastic transfer window and the team has clicked. Last season is done, over, finished. Instead of four wins in 2016 how about judging two wins in five games?
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 19 Sep 16 11.31am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Claims Pardew is suddenly amazing again and we're going to finish much higher than mid-table are plain ridiculous and as ridiculous as thoughts when we were 5th last season. We've got some tough matches coming up after Sunderland away and where we are then may reflect where we are a bit longer term. Possibly a bit below mid-table and. I am happy and realistic with that level.
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| rikz Croydon 19 Sep 16 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
That's fair. I also didn't want him sacked. That's because it would mean we're doing really sh1t. The time to do it would've been the summer but Parish trusted him to buy big in small quantities rather than the likes of Mutch. What concerns me is not being able to grind out results and there's a few games coming up that may require that. During our sh1ttest run in history we ground out 1 result. A draw at Swansea away. The others we struggled or threw points down the toilet. Sunderland away, vs Liverpool's 10 men and in the lead being among the worst. Who's claimed that then, maybe one or two posters, most posters are realistic enough to realise that we could finish anywhere between 8th and 20th, aslong as it's 8th-17th then that's all that matters. Our chances of getting relegated icrease after backing a manager to build a squad over 2 years then replacing him with someone unknown that could backfire massively.
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Littlebogreek  19 Sep 16 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Did anyone else notice that when the cries of "...getting sacked in the morning..." towards Hughes started, Pards asked the crowd to stop... Yeah we saw that - he talked about it bit in the press conference after, said that he had been through it and that Hughes didn't deserve it or something like that.
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| sxp55 South Norwood 19 Sep 16 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Yes. I see that as a realistic goal. One I would be happy with.
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ThatPetrolRelation  Ottawa 19 Sep 16 7.45pm |
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I don't think many think Pardew is the Second Coming, but he's arguably one of the most successful Managers Palace have had in decades. Bar Pulis, most Palace managers manage to get relegated from the PL. I'm realistic about what a Manager can achieve, though optimistic the odds are improving. Blaming Pardew for not being able to land players in January was ludicrous. Parrish landed who he could afford, and who could be convinced to come. Unfortunately it was only Ade. Apparently now that we sit in 8th we should only be excited if we beat teams above us, because every other team is a poor premier league team that we don't rate. Sigh. The Pardew-out crowd will be excited that Mark Hughes will soon be available, because he is clearly a much better manager than Pards. Heck Slaven Bilic or David Moyes might be free soon too, all these better managers....
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| cpfc84 19 Sep 16 7.49pm |
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wheres the newcastle fan that made a post ' i come in peace' ? be good to hear from him Edited by cpfc84 (19 Sep 2016 7.49pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Sep 16 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by rikz
Who's claimed that then, maybe one or two posters, most posters are realistic enough to realise that we could finish anywhere between 8th and 20th, aslong as it's 8th-17th then that's all that matters. Our chances of getting relegated icrease after backing a manager to build a squad over 2 years then replacing him with someone unknown that could backfire massively. Doesn't make sense.
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 19 Sep 16 8.06pm |
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Originally posted by ThatPetrolRelation
I don't think many think Pardew is the Second Coming, but he's arguably one of the most successful Managers Palace have had in decades. Bar Pulis, most Palace managers manage to get relegated from the PL. I'm realistic about what a Manager can achieve, though optimistic the odds are improving. Blaming Pardew for not being able to land players in January was ludicrous. Parrish landed who he could afford, and who could be convinced to come. Unfortunately it was only Ade. Apparently now that we sit in 8th we should only be excited if we beat teams above us, because every other team is a poor premier league team that we don't rate. Sigh. The Pardew-out crowd will be excited that Mark Hughes will soon be available, because he is clearly a much better manager than Pards. Heck Slaven Bilic or David Moyes might be free soon too, all these better managers.... I've not seen anyone on here say that... I'm not necessarily saying you, but I do question the ambition some people have as a supporter if they don't feel that we should be beating teams like Stoke, Boro, Sunderland. Some have even said they would be happy with finishing 17th every season... Personally I think we should be aiming higher than that... I would think that Parish, Pardew and the players would be thinking the same.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Sep 16 8.08pm |
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Originally posted by ThatPetrolRelation
I don't think many think Pardew is the Second Coming, but he's arguably one of the most successful Managers Palace have had in decades. Bar Pulis, most Palace managers manage to get relegated from the PL. I'm realistic about what a Manager can achieve, though optimistic the odds are improving. Blaming Pardew for not being able to land players in January was ludicrous. Parrish landed who he could afford, and who could be convinced to come. Unfortunately it was only Ade. Apparently now that we sit in 8th we should only be excited if we beat teams above us, because every other team is a poor premier league team that we don't rate. Sigh. The Pardew-out crowd will be excited that Mark Hughes will soon be available, because he is clearly a much better manager than Pards. Heck Slaven Bilic or David Moyes might be free soon too, all these better managers.... No not all teams below us but certainly promoted teams and teams in disarray like Stoke at the present time. We've next got Sunderland away. The point about expecting some return from these 'easier' matches is that once we go to Everton we have 4 very tough matches. If we got naff all up to Sunderland away the pressure would be on, but currently now the pressure is off and another good result and we can afford a bad return in those 4 tough fixtures. Getting carried away after beating a promoted side and a very poor Stoke is premature just as analysing bad results vs any of those tough teams alone. They need to be looked at together and after Man C away. Edited by Rudi Hedman (19 Sep 2016 8.09pm)
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