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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 23 Jul 16 9.16am | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
What about all the Indians, Jews, Africans etc who have settled in Europe over the past 50 years. These people you could argue have just as much reason to feel disenfranchised however they don’t result to mindless killings. Making excuses for these dicks whilst trying to put the blame on society is frankly pathetic. And of those Indians and Africans, you do realise a considerable percentage are muslim - do you see the flaw in your argument?
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Stirlingsays 23 Jul 16 9.18am | |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
And Islam has been around how many thousands of years? Did it ever effect our way of lives the way it has in the past 20 years? No, that's because as Rudyard Kipling wrote, never the twain shall meet. And that was the case right up until the west started to bomb and interfere with the east. The proof of that is there, plain for everyone to see. It's just that most choose not to look further than the agenda driven bias media agencies that they choose as their one true source of information. You don't really know much about Islam do you. It's under 1400 years old and was very much spread by the sword in a very short period of time. We would probably be Islamic ourselves if a Christian army hadn't stopped them in Spain. So yes, there was a time when Islam was very similar in its interpretation to how its extremists see it now. As I say, Islam is only peaceful for those that interpret it that way......Try drawing a cartoon of Mo and find out for yourself how peaceful it is....The peaceful ones will shake their heads but plenty will threaten you physically. As for the bombing 'of the east'. What bombing was going on before 9/11?
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blackpalacefan 23 Jul 16 9.18am | |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Trump has the majority of the Gay vote too. Amazing just how much support you can get in Politics by being honest regardless of your opinion. He just knows it's the year of the outsider and that people are fed up with the same messages and faces. I don't believe Trump has some burning, honest desire to build a wall or ban this or that group. It's just an angle he's taking because he see's it as his path to victory. It's all simple soundbites.
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jul 16 9.40am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
And of those Indians and Africans, you do realise a considerable percentage are muslim - do you see the flaw in your argument? Only about 14% of India is Muslim. Most Muslims from the sub continent are pakistani or Bangladeshi. I think all this does is demonstrate the complex issues and risks you set loose when you have a policy of allowing mass immigration.
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blackpalacefan 23 Jul 16 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Only about 14% of India is Muslim. Most Muslims from the sub continent are pakistani or Bangladeshi. I think all this does is demonstrate the complex issues and risks you set loose when you have a policy of allowing mass immigration. I have to admit the numbers going into Germany last year, 2 million, would raise anyones eyebrows. It's definite something something the people should've had a say on but Merkel saw cheap labour I believe and ignored all other factors.
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jul 16 10.10am | |
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Originally posted by blackpalacefan
I have to admit the numbers going into Germany last year, 2 million, would raise anyones eyebrows. It's definite something something the people should've had a say on but Merkel saw cheap labour I believe and ignored all other factors. Our politicians have gone mad or they have been bought or coerced. There was no excuse to be unaware of the potential risks in allowing such huge numbers into Europe. It's almost like some secret puppet master is pulling the strings to mess us up in the best way possible. My guess is that the super rich ruling elite are making this happen to further line their pockets. The collateral damage is of no consequence to them at all.
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Straightbackup Crystal Palace 23 Jul 16 10.16am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Facepalm moment of the week. Aye?
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jul 16 10.40am | |
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Originally posted by Straightbackup
Aye? If you insist. An academic discussion about holy books and which is the baddest really is besides the point. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Jul 2016 10.40am)
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Straightbackup Crystal Palace 23 Jul 16 11.11am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you insist. An academic discussion about holy books and which is the baddest really is besides the point. I thought that's what you might be driving at- which wasn't my point. At all. Edited by Straightbackup (23 Jul 2016 11.12am)
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blackpalacefan 23 Jul 16 12.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Straightbackup
I thought that's what you might be driving at- which wasn't my point. At all. Edited by Straightbackup (23 Jul 2016 11.12am)
The primary reason Christianity isn't the boogeyman of the moment is that we have so many distractions and live in relative comfort. If we lived with the kind of levels of destruction that exists within the middle east, inflicted on them by themselves and others, or felt a religious connect to that, it would filter through to our thinking too. It's really quite easy to justify terrible acts using the bible or the koran as it's all down to interpretation. Christianity has thankfully been rather watered down over the centuries. Really we're not even a Christian country anymore. What people don't point out with these polls of muslim opinion here is that, as out of sync as some are with society, views are actually gradually moving in the right direction. That doesn't sell papers though. If we kick out these crazed hate preachers and keep a close eye on those going down the right path, hopefully in time we can find more commonality and keep a lid on things. We're all on the same land mass despite our differences and so to an extent we don't have a choice regardless of what pans out with immigration. But as a wider point, the less religious the world becomes the better, since it's built on irrationality.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 23 Jul 16 12.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
If you insist. An academic discussion about holy books and which is the baddest really is besides the point. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Jul 2016 10.40am) You realise you've just made the exact same point that you facepalmed him to begin with? Facepalm moment of the month?
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jul 16 12.22pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
You realise you've just made the exact same point that you facepalmed him to begin with? Facepalm moment of the month? Well if that is the case than it was a point worth making twice. I will withdraw the facepalm award if it makes everyone feel better.
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