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Legal Eagle A town where fog lights shine, eve... 06 Apr 04 7.45pm | |
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Bracing myself for the criticism... But I can see Bubbs point about the media. Anyone who's done GCSE English/media has heard of sensationalism. But I like to think that in Britain it has far more integrity than say, the U.S. media. Anyone remember that Fox report about the BBC? I rest my case (the link to it btw, and that reporter's whole archive - [Link] - absolute NUTTER!)
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NickinOX Sailing country. 06 Apr 04 8.16pm | |
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I can see Bubbs point too. However, to basically say that it is all media hype seems rather extreme (ironically enough). Then to infer that only he has the answers bacause he calims to read the news in a foreign language is rather arrogant and does not inspire much confidence in his honesty or the integrity of his opinion. If he is so certain that what is going on is wrong, he should tell us all exactly how the whole problem should be dealt with. That's a pretty resonable request? Most people here think Fox News is a joke (as was discussed in a previous post on this subject). Also, not everyone gets the channel either. So to base your opinion on what is a spurious notion in the first place seems rather foolish.
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Legal Eagle A town where fog lights shine, eve... 06 Apr 04 8.38pm | |
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Quote NickinOX at 06 Apr 2004 8:16pm
I can see Bubbs point too. However, to basically say that it is all media hype seems rather extreme (ironically enough). Then to infer that only he has the answers bacause he calims to read the news in a foreign language is rather arrogant and does not inspire much confidence in his honesty or the integrity of his opinion. If he is so certain that what is going on is wrong, he should tell us all exactly how the whole problem should be dealt with. That's a pretty resonable request? Most people here think Fox News is a joke (as was discussed in a previous post on this subject). Also, not everyone gets the channel either. So to base your opinion on what is a spurious notion in the first place seems rather foolish.
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jcreedy 07 Apr 04 9.21am | |
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Quote rach_d_cpfc at 06 Apr 2004 6:32pm
Quote jcreedy at 06 Apr 2004 4:08pm
It would be so nice if religion didn't exist in any form whatsoever.
You back then? How was Thailand?
Edited by jcreedy (07 Apr 2004 9:21am)
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cranes park eagle surbiton 07 Apr 04 10.46am | |
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Its not just Fox who think the BBC can be a little dare I say it, pink at times. On religion I think the moral framework provided is valuable so I have no problem with RE. I think it fair to say we would have a more dogmatic and violent ethic if we followed the old testament as closely as we do do the new. eye for an eye etc. It is the interpretation of holy books that sometime creates the problems and unfortunately it seems that while we are able to let people make choices for themselves such tolerance seems in short supply elsewhere
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Badadmcmad Leeds 07 Apr 04 12.21pm | |
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I don't believe that RE as taught in most schools would harbour or try to develop such fundamentalist views as would create future terrorists. The only place this happens is in schools/establishments run outside the national curriculum. I personally feel that people should be asked to adapt more to the country's culture than the country adhere to every whim and demand made by minorities. To that end the media have so much to answer for in that they give a disproportionately loud voice to these comparatively small groups. It annoys me greatly that minorities get such special treatment when the return on such investment is minimal. Whereas funding elsewhere could have much greater monetary and social benefits. Also why do we have so many Scottish MP's? They've got their own parliament now. The English can't vote for Scottish policy but the Scottish can vote on English W.T.F!!!
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Glad All Over Bath 08 Apr 04 10.19am | |
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Quote Badadmcmad at 07 Apr 2004 12:21pm
I don't believe that RE as taught in most schools would harbour or try to develop such fundamentalist views as would create future terrorists. The only place this happens is in schools/establishments run outside the national curriculum. I personally feel that people should be asked to adapt more to the country's culture than the country adhere to every whim and demand made by minorities. To that end the media have so much to answer for in that they give a disproportionately loud voice to these comparatively small groups. It annoys me greatly that minorities get such special treatment when the return on such investment is minimal. Whereas funding elsewhere could have much greater monetary and social benefits. Also why do we have so many Scottish MP's? They've got their own parliament now. The English can't vote for Scottish policy but the Scottish can vote on English W.T.F!!! These minority groups are part of the country's culture. Where do you want to draw the line at who is or isn't part of the country's culture? Celts? Anglo-Saxons? Normans? Danes? Tell me when to stop...
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Apr 04 12.29pm | |
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Quote Glad All Over at 08 Apr 2004 10:19am
These minority groups are part of the country's culture. Where do you want to draw the line at who is or isn't part of the country's culture? Celts? Anglo-Saxons? Normans? Danes? Tell me when to stop... You know full well that's an invalid argument. The examples you've given were conquests. What is happening now is entirely different. These people are here because this country has given them sanctuary from some kind of alleged 'persecution', most of which is seriously doubtful anyway. The point that most people are making is that many are here under false pretences, are involved to some degree in crime, and/or have views that are seditious in nature. This makes it difficult for the few who are indeed here legitimately but the threat of terrorism from within is a very real one and, unfortunately, it's people of their appearance/persuasion who are the likely perpetrators. The credentials of all people in this category must be thoroughly re-examined (if they ever were scrutinised in the first place, which seems to be more unlikely) and those who do not fulfil very strict criteria must be rooted out and removed.
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Glad All Over Bath 08 Apr 04 4.06pm | |
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But, seriously CF - how long do people have to be in this country before you consider them part of it instead of being one of 'These people'? Born here? Parents born here? Grandparents born here? What about people of mixed race? I'm not trying to argue here, I'm just genuinely interested in your viewpoint.
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