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cranes park eagle surbiton 15 Mar 04 3.25pm | |
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I think there are separate issues here. Not paedophiles are child murderers just as not all those who have murdered a child are paedophiles. The issue here is that Huntley was a sick, depraved and manipulative man who needed to go further and further to satisfy his urges in the way of serial killers. After rape, what is the next step? I agree something in Huntleys past may have brought this about but in this case we have to throw the key away.
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w.w.j.d? Teddington (Hol Lower Block B Row ... 15 Mar 04 5.23pm | |
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Spot on Becky.
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JollyStef 19 Mar 04 8.57am | |
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Quote w.w.j.d? at 15 Mar 2004 5:23pm
Spot on Becky.
How can you come up with "it doesn't have anything to do with us as he didn't harm us" ? So if the parents say "forgive him" he can go on and commit anything he wants .. ? Forgiveness doesn't come into this .. it's a wrong doing towards the society and the values we all uphold as law abiding citizens. Of course we don't have to "forgive" him .. it has to do with ALL OF US as society and its laws set an example and a standard to everyone living in it. Huntley is wrong and doesn't deserve our forgiveness (and the God thing .. what a load of bollox .. that means no-one would ever be trialed and sentences in our world ?? Cool, i'm looking forward to seeing how THAT will work in reality. I'll kill someone who I don't like .. can't be trialed for it, can I .. it's in the hands of GOD ..??? gimme a break. Those 10 year olds don't deserve forgiveness .. I honestly don't give a f*** how messed up their childhoods were .. you just don't do stuff like that. Give the kids life and their parents f.e. 6 months in prison .. it's their fault too. If you can't give your kids proper values then you're not fit to be a parent, i.e. you should be punished too. Outside influences of course play a major role .. but it still doesn't excuse murder ! Breaking a window ok, murdering someone ?? Come on people ... Those soft "values" makes people loose grip on society which makes it a mess. In this day and age the murderer has more bloody rights than the victims (I can see it in this country with the Dutroux case) .. HOW CAN YOU AGREE TO THESE THINGS, HOW CAN YOU BE SO "POLITICALLY CORRECT" THAT YOU BECOME SO SOFT AND FORGIVE JUST ANYBODY BECAUSE THEY COME AND CRY ABOUT THEIR "SAD CHILDHOOD" ??? THAT MAKES ME VOMIT ! Indeed, seeing some of those soft replies makes me understand more why society is going down the drain ..
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JollyStef 19 Mar 04 8.59am | |
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Quote Geoff Thomas at 13 Mar 2004 12:33am
How anyone can defend Huntley is beyond me! GT Edited by Geoff Thomas (13 Mar 2004 12:35am) AMEN to that .. A bloody MEN
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matt_the_eagle Tulse Thrill 19 Mar 04 12.32pm | |
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All nonces should be rounded up and killed. Can't see how anyone can argue against it.
I think Keith Murray said it best when he rapped I'm sure you'll agree. |
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 19 Mar 04 1.03pm | |
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Quote matt_the_eagle at 19 Mar 2004 12:32pm
All nonces should be rounded up and killed. Can't see how anyone can argue against it. Apart from when they get the wrong guy!
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big fat london boy gillingham..(pykey land) 19 Mar 04 2.29pm | |
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spot on GT nothing really more to add.. Quote Geoff Thomas at 13 Mar 2004 12:33am
How anyone can defend Huntley is beyond me! GT Edited by Geoff Thomas (13 Mar 2004 12:35am)
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big fat london boy gillingham..(pykey land) 19 Mar 04 2.30pm | |
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utter drivel ... Quote becky at 13 Mar 2004 10:18pm
No, not even the religious have the authority forgive these crimes. Forgiveness is in the hands of God alone, and then only when there is repentance.
There's never a country in the world with the scent of an ENGLISH rose..... |
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Bexter By the Sea 19 Mar 04 2.42pm | |
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'Before anyone gives it large anti death penalty comments just think for a second and think if only this could deter a few stupid killings it would be well worth it' without wanting to start the whole death penalty debate - just a quick point, it does not deter murder as proved in america over and over again. and innocent people get wrongly convicted. if it worked as a deterrent and there was a way of making sure you were 100% correct when convicting someone, lots may feel differently.
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matt_the_eagle Tulse Thrill 19 Mar 04 4.08pm | |
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This isn't a death penalty debate, I just think nonces don't deserve the air we breath.
I think Keith Murray said it best when he rapped I'm sure you'll agree. |
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Petealiator 1066 Country! 19 Mar 04 9.31pm | |
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Here's a curve ball for the Christians in this debate... A fundamental basic duty of Christians may be forgiveness towards his fellow man, but there's also a solemn duty to fight the good fight; the fight against evil; The fight against Satan and his legions. Am I wrong? Or do you forgive Satan? Or do you simply not believe in Satan? Which would imply you don't actually believe in evil and so can't possibly believe in God? By denying the fact that evil walks among us in the shape of men, you deny a fundamental aspect of the bible and of Christianity itself. My point being that Christianity is a religion, a strong and ancient religion, not some wishy-washy retirement plan for the love generation of the sixties, surely to God it's time for Christians to face facts and take up arms against evil?
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rach_cpfc South Croydon 19 Mar 04 11.19pm | |
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Oh, you love to ask easy questions huh Pete?! A fundamental basic duty of Christians may be forgiveness towards his fellow man, but there's also a solemn duty to fight the good fight; the fight against evil; The fight against Satan and his legions. Am I wrong? Or do you forgive Satan? Or do you simply not believe in Satan? Which would imply you don't actually believe in evil and so can't possibly believe in God? By denying the fact that evil walks among us in the shape of men, you deny a fundamental aspect of the bible and of Christianity itself.
These are my views anyway - based on my faith but I'm not saying it's what all Christians would say. Ultimately it's about grace, which is very hard to comprehend.
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