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ChuFukka Flag 05 Jul 15 6.37pm Send a Private Message to ChuFukka Add ChuFukka as a friend

Looks like a no vote likely.

Prepare for chaos Greece, because the Germans will not fund your public service and pension profligacy any longer. An atrocious decision from a tragically desperate and under informed electorate.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 15 6.39pm

60 / 40 to the no's after 10% of votes counted.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jul 15 6.40pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 6.37pm

Looks like a no vote likely.

Prepare for chaos Greece, because the Germans will not fund your public service and pension profligacy any longer. An atrocious decision from a tragically desperate and under informed electorate.


They aren't under informed.

Rightly or wrongly, they just don't agree with you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2015 6.41pm)

 


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Dweeb Flag East London 05 Jul 15 7.26pm Send a Private Message to Dweeb Add Dweeb as a friend

Well the lack of tax income isn't helping any. So much of the big profits get salted away offshore, so the no one wants to pay for where they live.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 05 Jul 15 7.27pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 05 Jul 2015 6.40pm

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 6.37pm

Looks like a no vote likely.

Prepare for chaos Greece, because the Germans will not fund your public service and pension profligacy any longer. An atrocious decision from a tragically desperate and under informed electorate.


They aren't under informed.

Rightly or wrongly, they just don't agree with you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2015 6.41pm)


The tipping point where the amount of debt payments + mounting interest payments became unsustainable passed a long time ago.

Some would say that the banks are strangling the Greeks because of who is in power there...

 

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ChuFukka Flag 05 Jul 15 7.27pm Send a Private Message to ChuFukka Add ChuFukka as a friend

Quote Stirlingsays at 05 Jul 2015 6.40pm

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 6.37pm

Looks like a no vote likely.

Prepare for chaos Greece, because the Germans will not fund your public service and pension profligacy any longer. An atrocious decision from a tragically desperate and under informed electorate.


They aren't under informed.

Rightly or wrongly, they just don't agree with you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2015 6.41pm)


There aren't that many other ways to look at it. They seem to think that this will give them a stronger negotiating position within the EU, when it seems for all intents and purposes that the exact opposite is true. Many will see this as a huge 'up yours' to the people who have bankrolled them for years because they couldn't control their budget, and many (Germans in particular) are sick of it. They didn't belong in the Eurozone in the first place, and, whether they choose to believe it or not, this will accelerate their exit.

 

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ChuFukka Flag 05 Jul 15 7.28pm Send a Private Message to ChuFukka Add ChuFukka as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 05 Jul 2015 7.27pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 05 Jul 2015 6.40pm

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 6.37pm

Looks like a no vote likely.

Prepare for chaos Greece, because the Germans will not fund your public service and pension profligacy any longer. An atrocious decision from a tragically desperate and under informed electorate.


They aren't under informed.

Rightly or wrongly, they just don't agree with you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2015 6.41pm)


The tipping point where the amount of debt payments + mounting interest payments became unsustainable passed a long time ago.

Some would say that the banks are strangling the Greeks because of who is in power there...


Only the clueless and paranoid.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jul 15 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 7.27pm

There aren't that many other ways to look at it. They seem to think that this will give them a stronger negotiating position within the EU, when it seems for all intents and purposes that the exact opposite is true. Many will see this as a huge 'up yours' to the people who have bankrolled them for years because they couldn't control their budget, and many (Germans in particular) are sick of it. They didn't belong in the Eurozone in the first place, and, whether they choose to believe it or not, this will accelerate their exit.

It was the Germans who along with the rest of the EU voted to let them in.....It was the EU who were incompetent in not realising that Greece's books were cooked.....Any idiot with any knowledge of Greece knows how badly run it is.
It was largely German firms who took advantage of Greece's underdevelopment to build massive construction projects there.....Greece has been treated like a second class state.....Another entity to service the strong economies of Europe.

Much of Greek's debt has been provided by the EU (whose leader is Germany (how ironic)) in the same way a crack dealer deals out crack.

Budget problems were dealt with by increasing their debt......This problem is just as much a fault of the EU as it is the politicians in Greece.

f*** the EU and half of what it stands for......It's helped ruin Greece.....It managed to take a bankrupt country and increase its problems many times over....draw it close to extremism and disaster than it ever has been.

Now Greece kicks the ball back into the EU's half.....Throw us out and risk Italy and Spain as well.....The markets aren't stupid....Those countries are heading in the same direction.....It won't be sensible to repeat the long and expensive journey with them also......Allowing Greece to fall could allow the whole pack to fall.

I'm going to be very interested in what happens next.

 


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eagleeeeeeees Flag 05 Jul 15 7.58pm Send a Private Message to eagleeeeeeees Add eagleeeeeeees as a friend

would the U.K. be worse or better off out of the EU?

 

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TUX Flag redhill 05 Jul 15 8.03pm Send a Private Message to TUX Add TUX as a friend

Quote Stirlingsays at 05 Jul 2015 7.47pm

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 7.27pm

There aren't that many other ways to look at it. They seem to think that this will give them a stronger negotiating position within the EU, when it seems for all intents and purposes that the exact opposite is true. Many will see this as a huge 'up yours' to the people who have bankrolled them for years because they couldn't control their budget, and many (Germans in particular) are sick of it. They didn't belong in the Eurozone in the first place, and, whether they choose to believe it or not, this will accelerate their exit.

It was the Germans who along with the rest of the EU voted to let them in.....It was the EU who were incompetent in not realising that Greece's books were cooked.....Any idiot with any knowledge of Greece knows how badly run it is.
It was largely German firms who took advantage of Greece's underdevelopment to build massive construction projects there.....Greece has been treated like a second class state.....Another entity to service the strong economies of Europe.

Much of Greek's debt has been provided by the EU (whose leader is Germany (how ironic)) in the same way a crack dealer deals out crack.

Budget problems were dealt with by increasing their debt......This problem is just as much a fault of the EU as it is the politicians in Greece.

f*** the EU and half of what it stands for......It's helped ruin Greece.....It managed to take a bankrupt country and increase its problems many times over....draw it close to extremism and disaster than it ever has been.

Now Greece kicks the ball back into the EU's half.....Throw us out and risk Italy and Spain as well.....The markets aren't stupid....Those countries are heading in the same direction.....It won't be sensible to repeat the long and expensive journey with them also......Allowing Greece to fall could allow the whole pack to fall.

I'm going to be very interested in what happens next.

Hardly incompetent. The bankers knew exactly what they were doing.
That aside, I fully agree with the rest of your post.


 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 05 Jul 15 8.15pm

could end up with another military takeover. Would make Turkey v nervous. Bad news all round. I feel for the ordinary Greeks and suspect that, while they are still in the EU and have travel rights, will be looking at joining relatives abroad. I think we will see a big growth in Greeks coming here. I for one would welcome them.

 


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legaleagle Flag 05 Jul 15 8.45pm

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 7.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Jul 2015 7.27pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 05 Jul 2015 6.40pm

Quote ChuFukka at 05 Jul 2015 6.37pm

Looks like a no vote likely.

Prepare for chaos Greece, because the Germans will not fund your public service and pension profligacy any longer. An atrocious decision from a tragically desperate and under informed electorate.


They aren't under informed.

Rightly or wrongly, they just don't agree with you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jul 2015 6.41pm)


The tipping point where the amount of debt payments + mounting interest payments became unsustainable passed a long time ago.

Some would say that the banks are strangling the Greeks because of who is in power there...


Only the clueless and paranoid.

Thanks for the compliment

 

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