What about after that,after people's eyes are opened ?

What's the next step then?

Or do you say,enough eyes will never be opened,so there's nothing anyone can do anyway?

Edited by legaleagle (07 May 2015 8.50pm)

I would be interested if you tried to answer Legals question Tux. We can all spout nonsense but what is the answer (once our eyes have all been opened) we are looking for you Tux to lead us out of this mess.. We think you may have the answers and we dont want you keeping them just for yourself now

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

eh, no you didn't.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

ok. So we can do nothing about it in your view and if we partake in the political election process we are mugs and should open our eyes..

I don't knock your view that nothing really changes and we get screwed whichever way it goes.The rich indeed stay rich and prosperous.I don't go with you about the small group of people working in league and pulling strings up top,that's more into global conspiracy areas than I am.

But,allowing for all that,here's one way we differ . In terms of a person's day to day life and their family's, the inch of difference between the possible governments (and yes only an inch) as things stand can drop us enough crumbs to make it worth noticing the difference and having that extra inch.

If a person is ill and needs an operation for a potential terminal condition,a small drop in waiting times could make a big difference,as could more help with funding of care for under five's so a parent can work and earn some money.Or,if you suffer from a mental health condition,having the funding slightly less slashed so a care worker is more likely to be available to help you when crisis time comes,so you don't relapse and end up back in hospital "sectioned" and losing your job again...

So,for me,that justifies participating in it (didn't say makes it more than I've said)...could be me or one of mine needing one of the above tomorrow ,could even be you or one of your's...

But everyone's entitled to an opinion...

Edited by legaleagle (07 May 2015 10.03pm)

Well,I've explained my point of view and you've reiterated your's.

Same ten years ago and same ten years from now? In the big picture,yes.But I already said I agreed with you on that

In the small picture I painted,giving three examples, it could make a difference to a few ordinary people's (mugs?) day to day lives in a meaningful way.The example I gave about mental health care workers is not imaginary.Its based on reality about one of my extended "me and mine" and I've seen close up the difference the example can make over a period of years to a person's life (and NHS service levels),and they are very unlikely to have been the only one..so,if for no other reason, this "mug" casts his vote...because a crumb is indeed only a crumb but I'd rather have a crumb with nothing changing than your scenario of do nothing,have no crumb and nothing changes.

Its not about "locking horns";we're having a civilised discussion,not a row of any type.But,I'll leave it at that.

Edited by legaleagle (07 May 2015 10.52pm)