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matthau South Croydon 11 Mar 15 10.32pm
The real issue being that we should all have more sex. There'll always be problems in the world. But if we all shag a bit more, it makes it all a bit more tolerable.
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matthau

South Croydon 11 Mar 15 10.32pm

The real issue being that we should all have more sex.

There'll always be problems in the world.

But if we all shag a bit more, it makes it all a bit more tolerable.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Mar 15 10.34pm
Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue. Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish. He has a fine Scottish ancestry. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm

funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue.

Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish. He has a fine Scottish ancestry.

Big chest and massive boobs

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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 Mar 15 10.38pm
Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue. Like how retarded your post sounds? "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 11 Mar 15 10.38pm

Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm

funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue.

Like how retarded your post sounds?

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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legaleagle 11 Mar 15 11.59pm
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legaleagle 12 Mar 15 12.01am
Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue. Yes, and how "the Jew" regularly take instructions from "the Martian" stepping out from its spaceship at 4am on alternate tuesdays at a small clearing in Epping Forest. Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2015 9.46am)
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12 Mar 15 12.01am

Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm

funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue.

Yes, and how "the Jew" regularly take instructions from "the Martian" stepping out from its spaceship at 4am on alternate tuesdays at a small clearing in Epping Forest.

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legaleagle 12 Mar 15 12.07am
Quote matthau at 11 Mar 2015 10.32pm The real issue being that we should all have more sex. There'll always be problems in the world. But if we all shag a bit more, it makes it all a bit more tolerable. Could depend on who you are shagging? Wilhelm Reich-like orgone machines for all on the NHS? [Link]
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12 Mar 15 12.07am

Quote matthau at 11 Mar 2015 10.32pm

The real issue being that we should all have more sex.

There'll always be problems in the world.

But if we all shag a bit more, it makes it all a bit more tolerable.

Could depend on who you are shagging?

Wilhelm Reich-like orgone machines for all on the NHS?

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legaleagle 12 Mar 15 12.13am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Mar 2015 5.28pm Quote 7mins at 11 Mar 2015 3.27pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Mar 2015 10.06am Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.36am Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Mar 2015 9.25am Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.21am ISIS actually hate everyone. They would if they could kill 100% of Christians and ever Muslim that doesn't adhere to their insane interpretation of Islam. IS aren't muslims, they're sectarian nationalists who use Islam as a means to an end. The Koran is pretty clear that killing innocents is unacceptable, especially when their muslims. The whole Apostasy thing is a convenience (and IS is the apostacsy). IS is about power, control and domination. It has nothing to do with Islam. It may not be an accurate representation Jamie, but to say it has nothing to do with it is erroneous. It clearly does as they take their inspiration from the Koran, distorted or otherwise. Apostasy is another thing entirely as many Muslim countries imprison and execute people for this supposed crime. As such its clearly not just an IS 'convenience' IS is as much about Islam as the UVF and Provisional IRA are about Christianity. They're shrouds of convenience to justify their political ambitions, and to create a sectarian divide which allows them to recruit. Its really all secular politics under a flag of religion, similar to how far right groups co-opt the idea of nationalism in the UK, ultimately its about creating a form of vanguard. The action of that vanguard is to polarize society in such a way as to marginalize moderates, and cause a backlash (against Islam) that ultimately ends up validating their cause within that increasingly isolated group. Is Islam as popularism. Its very similar to how the Christian Right in the US operates, it attacks issues then claims to be victimized, resulting in a polarization between Athiesm and Christains, whilst drawing Christians into alliance that might otherwise have more in common with athiests. Not sure you can say it has nothing to do with Islam, you and I don't know the reasons why 30,000 Muslims have decided to wage war in Syria. What I do know is I listened to a interview with a Iman from the Muslim Council of Great Britain, and he said that Muslims need to be very vigilant as they confront a very real problem with fundamentalist, So I would be interested to know, if he thinks there is a problem within the Islamic community, why you don't? P.S. Whataboutery is a morons trick. I would suggest the reasons why a metric s**t ton of muslims in Syria are waging war has its basis not in the fact they're muslims, but the Assad regime. IS originate from the Sunni tribes on both sides of the Syrian border, and their existence grew out of not the Koran, but the collapse of the Saddam era Iraq and the insurgency against the US. With the rise of the Arab spring, and the consequence of a revolution in Syria, Sunni insurgents switched their focus from the US in Iraq, to the Syrian border region - First through logistical provision (weapons and equipment, something the insurgents had that the Syria disidents lacked) and more directly. Out of the ISIS grew (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) which has the goal of establishing a 'independent Islamic state, which covers the areas of north western Iraq and eastern Syria). Its origins and basis aren't really religious, they're secular, effectively establishing a Sunni Nation out of part of Syria and Iraq. Islam is just a tool to establishing that. Disagree.The conditions for/desire amongst the wider populace for an independent Sunni enclave/state arises as you say.ISIS hopped in with a strictly salafist Islamist (as opposed to Islam) agenda and capitalised on that and fear of Shia repression,morphed from being a relatively small player, and bob's your uncle.ISIS'origins and ideology are firmly grounded in that as opposed to "Iraqi/Syrian Sunni nationalism" IMO. Edited by legaleagle (12 Mar 2015 9.44am)
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12 Mar 15 12.13am

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ISIS actually hate everyone. They would if they could kill 100% of Christians and ever Muslim that doesn't adhere to their insane interpretation of Islam.

IS aren't muslims, they're sectarian nationalists who use Islam as a means to an end. The Koran is pretty clear that killing innocents is unacceptable, especially when their muslims. The whole Apostasy thing is a convenience (and IS is the apostacsy).

IS is about power, control and domination. It has nothing to do with Islam.

It may not be an accurate representation Jamie, but to say it has nothing to do with it is erroneous.

It clearly does as they take their inspiration from the Koran, distorted or otherwise. Apostasy is another thing entirely as many Muslim countries imprison and execute people for this supposed crime. As such its clearly not just an IS 'convenience'

IS is as much about Islam as the UVF and Provisional IRA are about Christianity. They're shrouds of convenience to justify their political ambitions, and to create a sectarian divide which allows them to recruit.

Its really all secular politics under a flag of religion, similar to how far right groups co-opt the idea of nationalism in the UK, ultimately its about creating a form of vanguard. The action of that vanguard is to polarize society in such a way as to marginalize moderates, and cause a backlash (against Islam) that ultimately ends up validating their cause within that increasingly isolated group.

Is Islam as popularism. Its very similar to how the Christian Right in the US operates, it attacks issues then claims to be victimized, resulting in a polarization between Athiesm and Christains, whilst drawing Christians into alliance that might otherwise have more in common with athiests.

Not sure you can say it has nothing to do with Islam, you and I don't know the reasons why 30,000 Muslims have decided to wage war in Syria. What I do know is I listened to a interview with a Iman from the Muslim Council of Great Britain, and he said that Muslims need to be very vigilant as they confront a very real problem with fundamentalist, So I would be interested to know, if he thinks there is a problem within the Islamic community, why you don't?

P.S.

Whataboutery is a morons trick.

I would suggest the reasons why a metric s**t ton of muslims in Syria are waging war has its basis not in the fact they're muslims, but the Assad regime.

IS originate from the Sunni tribes on both sides of the Syrian border, and their existence grew out of not the Koran, but the collapse of the Saddam era Iraq and the insurgency against the US. With the rise of the Arab spring, and the consequence of a revolution in Syria, Sunni insurgents switched their focus from the US in Iraq, to the Syrian border region - First through logistical provision (weapons and equipment, something the insurgents had that the Syria disidents lacked) and more directly.

Out of the ISIS grew (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) which has the goal of establishing a 'independent Islamic state, which covers the areas of north western Iraq and eastern Syria). Its origins and basis aren't really religious, they're secular, effectively establishing a Sunni Nation out of part of Syria and Iraq.

Islam is just a tool to establishing that.

Disagree.The conditions for/desire amongst the wider populace for an independent Sunni enclave/state arises as you say.ISIS hopped in with a strictly salafist Islamist (as opposed to Islam) agenda and capitalised on that and fear of Shia repression,morphed from being a relatively small player, and bob's your uncle.ISIS'origins and ideology are firmly grounded in that as opposed to "Iraqi/Syrian Sunni nationalism" IMO.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 12 Mar 15 9.13am
Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue. what ? why England are sh1t at one day cricket ? Or why that statement is the most idiotic thing I have ever read on this site, and I include PT in the school holidays in that as well. Edited by dannyh (12 Mar 2015 9.14am) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 12 Mar 15 9.13am

Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm

funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue.

what ? why England are sh1t at one day cricket ? Or why that statement is the most idiotic thing I have ever read on this site, and I include PT in the school holidays in that as well.

Edited by dannyh (12 Mar 2015 9.14am)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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7mins In the bush 13 Mar 15 9.23am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Mar 2015 5.28pm Quote 7mins at 11 Mar 2015 3.27pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Mar 2015 10.06am Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.36am Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Mar 2015 9.25am Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.21am ISIS actually hate everyone. They would if they could kill 100% of Christians and ever Muslim that doesn't adhere to their insane interpretation of Islam. IS aren't muslims, they're sectarian nationalists who use Islam as a means to an end. The Koran is pretty clear that killing innocents is unacceptable, especially when their muslims. The whole Apostasy thing is a convenience (and IS is the apostacsy). IS is about power, control and domination. It has nothing to do with Islam. It may not be an accurate representation Jamie, but to say it has nothing to do with it is erroneous. It clearly does as they take their inspiration from the Koran, distorted or otherwise. Apostasy is another thing entirely as many Muslim countries imprison and execute people for this supposed crime. As such its clearly not just an IS 'convenience' IS is as much about Islam as the UVF and Provisional IRA are about Christianity. They're shrouds of convenience to justify their political ambitions, and to create a sectarian divide which allows them to recruit. Its really all secular politics under a flag of religion, similar to how far right groups co-opt the idea of nationalism in the UK, ultimately its about creating a form of vanguard. The action of that vanguard is to polarize society in such a way as to marginalize moderates, and cause a backlash (against Islam) that ultimately ends up validating their cause within that increasingly isolated group. Is Islam as popularism. Its very similar to how the Christian Right in the US operates, it attacks issues then claims to be victimized, resulting in a polarization between Athiesm and Christains, whilst drawing Christians into alliance that might otherwise have more in common with athiests. Not sure you can say it has nothing to do with Islam, you and I don't know the reasons why 30,000 Muslims have decided to wage war in Syria. What I do know is I listened to a interview with a Iman from the Muslim Council of Great Britain, and he said that Muslims need to be very vigilant as they confront a very real problem with fundamentalist, So I would be interested to know, if he thinks there is a problem within the Islamic community, why you don't? P.S. Whataboutery is a morons trick. I would suggest the reasons why a metric s**t ton of muslims in Syria are waging war has its basis not in the fact they're muslims, but the Assad regime. IS originate from the Sunni tribes on both sides of the Syrian border, and their existence grew out of not the Koran, but the collapse of the Saddam era Iraq and the insurgency against the US. With the rise of the Arab spring, and the consequence of a revolution in Syria, Sunni insurgents switched their focus from the US in Iraq, to the Syrian border region - First through logistical provision (weapons and equipment, something the insurgents had that the Syria disidents lacked) and more directly. Out of the ISIS grew (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) which has the goal of establishing a 'independent Islamic state, which covers the areas of north western Iraq and eastern Syria). Its origins and basis aren't really religious, they're secular, effectively establishing a Sunni Nation out of part of Syria and Iraq. Islam is just a tool to establishing that. I was clearly wrong, you do know more than the Iman from the Muslim Council of Great Britain, you also seem to have knowledge of the reasons why 30000 Muslims have decided to fight for iSIS.
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In the bush 13 Mar 15 9.23am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Mar 2015 5.28pm

Quote 7mins at 11 Mar 2015 3.27pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Mar 2015 10.06am

Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.36am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Mar 2015 9.25am

Quote reborn at 06 Mar 2015 9.21am

ISIS actually hate everyone. They would if they could kill 100% of Christians and ever Muslim that doesn't adhere to their insane interpretation of Islam.

IS is about power, control and domination. It has nothing to do with Islam.

It may not be an accurate representation Jamie, but to say it has nothing to do with it is erroneous.

P.S.

Whataboutery is a morons trick.

I would suggest the reasons why a metric s**t ton of muslims in Syria are waging war has its basis not in the fact they're muslims, but the Assad regime.

Islam is just a tool to establishing that.

I was clearly wrong, you do know more than the Iman from the Muslim Council of Great Britain, you also seem to have knowledge of the reasons why 30000 Muslims have decided to fight for iSIS.

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johnfirewall 17 Apr 15 12.09am
It was clearly no pleasure cruise but I can't see what would lead you to these sort of actions without a pre-existing hatred for non believers. [Link]
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17 Apr 15 12.09am

It was clearly no pleasure cruise but I can't see what would lead you to these sort of actions without a pre-existing hatred for non believers.

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Seth On a pale blue dot 17 Apr 15 1.46am
Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue. Bye bye numptie "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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Seth

On a pale blue dot 17 Apr 15 1.46am

Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm

funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue.

Bye bye numptie

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

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reborn 17 Apr 15 8.03am
Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue. See you Adolf My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs
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reborn 17 Apr 15 8.03am

Quote MileFan at 11 Mar 2015 10.28pm

funny how the Jew run media makes us all hate Muslims and no-one stops to think about the real issue.

See you Adolf

My username has nothing to do with my religious beliefs

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