Young people under 25 could be made to do up to 30 hours community work a week to recieve £57 'Youth allowance' That's about £1.91 an hour...

That's one way to drive the low wage immigrant economy out I spose.

I'm sorry, what difference does it make if he just 'suggested' it? Surely it represents the same ideological basis on which he would enact it?

What the Tories have very cunningly done (after all, w@nkers do tend to be very cunning) is frame the whole thing around the popular image of the 'benefit scrounger'. Even though so much information has come out proving just how exaggerated an issue this is, even though benefits have been squeezed and squeezed and squeezed in recent years, and even though the Joseph Rowntree Foundation found that there is no correlation between removing benefits and people looking for work, it's still so appealing: it's difficult to defend that sort of lifestyle, even if only a few thousand people live by it.

But of course we're not talking about a policy which will only affect the long-term unemployed; we're talking about something that will affect the hundreds of thousands of kids who will seek benefits for totally legitimate reasons. Maybe you work in construction and you break your leg, or maybe you try to set up a business and it goes tits up. Where previously the state intervened to provide you with financial support, if Cameron gets his wish it no longer will and you will instead be forced in to a joke job just to pay the bills. That's cunning, really f*cking cunning because it means not only do the Tories get to pander to the Daily Mail readers who genuinely believe the country is buckling under the millions of benefit scroungers, but it means the Tories enter the election with record employment figures, while their mates in big business find a new pool of workers willing to work for pennies on insecure contracts.

And so, to wrap up in typically dramatic fashion, they are all c*nts and are first against the wall come the revolution.

Threads like this puzzle me.

I dislike politicians. I think the Tories are charlatans who wouldn't know what a principle was if one crawled up their trousers and bit them. I think the parliamentary Labour party are metropolitan bourgeois snobs who secretly despise the people who give them most of their votes.

"Out of touch" is possibly fair criticism (of MPs in general). But "heartless"? "Bloodthirsty"? Do you honestly think they are immoral people who willingly want to go out and damage people's lives? That strikes me as incredibly immature and irrational. I'm all for passion in politics but this reduces debate to a puerile, schoolboy level.[/quote]

In one pithy sentence the dictionary definition of what partisan ideologically lead party politics is all about

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

Yes right of course. Doesn't stop the Tories being w***ers though.

I'm sorry, what difference does it make if he just 'suggested' it? Surely it represents the same ideological basis on which he would enact it?

What the Tories have very cunningly done (after all, w@nkers do tend to be very cunning) is frame the whole thing around the popular image of the 'benefit scrounger'. Even though so much information has come out proving just how exaggerated an issue this is, even though benefits have been squeezed and squeezed and squeezed in recent years, and even though the Joseph Rowntree Foundation found that there is no correlation between removing benefits and people looking for work, it's still so appealing: it's difficult to defend that sort of lifestyle, even if only a few thousand people live by it.

But of course we're not talking about a policy which will only affect the long-term unemployed; we're talking about something that will affect the hundreds of thousands of kids who will seek benefits for totally legitimate reasons. Maybe you work in construction and you break your leg, or maybe you try to set up a business and it goes tits up. Where previously the state intervened to provide you with financial support, if Cameron gets his wish it no longer will and you will instead be forced in to a joke job just to pay the bills. That's cunning, really f*cking cunning because it means not only do the Tories get to pander to the Daily Mail readers who genuinely believe the country is buckling under the millions of benefit scroungers, but it means the Tories enter the election with record employment figures, while their mates in big business find a new pool of workers willing to work for pennies on insecure contracts.

And so, to wrap up in typically dramatic fashion, they are all c*nts and are first against the wall come the revolution.